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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The US didn't steal these guys rocket tech.

They stole these guys rocket tech.

They are not the same.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

Technically we stole the engineers.

[-] BlindPenguin@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Just let me have the Schadenfreude. It's the only thing keeping me sane. :P

[-] wraekscadu@vargar.org 14 points 2 hours ago

I never got the issue with tech being "stolen". Free exchange of information almost always helps everyone. The only class it doesn't help is the capitalist class, which wants rent extraction by gatekeeping human advancements.

There are a great many things to criticise the Chinese state for. Allegedly "stealing tech" or "stealing western IP" however, has to be one of the weakest criticisms (even if it's actually happening).

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago

Didn't we actually steal Wernher von Braun?

[-] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 hours ago

The whole story is fascinating, if more than a little fucked up.

He and his engineering team decided to seek out US troops to surrender to because he didn’t want the Soviets getting their hands on his rocket tech. The US government got him out of the country, forged documents to get him into the US legally, granted him immunity and shielded him from being prosecuted for war crimes and atrocities he was involved in.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

because he didn’t want the Soviets getting their hands on his rocket tech

I think it was more him not wanting to be caught by the Russians because it would be a lot more uncomfortable.

[-] eurodyne@piefed.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Probably both

[-] Shindo66@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

He was sitting poolside at a resort when an US agent came up to him and said essentially "we found you, we also know where your family is. You can come with us and we'll get you and your family out, or, you can wait for the Russians to find you, which won't be long, and you can see what they do with you. The choice is yours, but make it right now." So he went to the US because he felt his fate was better there. And he wasn't just a scientist who was being used by the Nazis, he was a hardened nazi. He ran factories with slave labor that had executed corpses hanging from the ceiling. The workers had to go down a hallway to check into work where the bodies of sabotauers were on display and they had to punch them on their way onto the floor. He wasn't just complicit in that and how things were run, those were his decisions. (I did a humongous project on the V-2 rocket when I was younger. Would have won the national competition in DC if I would have just answered one question the judges were essentially begging me to answer)

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 32 minutes ago

What was the question?

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

And that kids, is why you should study engineering in college.

[-] TerHu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 hours ago

yes, and so much more. the americans actually took everything and anything rocket related they could get their hands on, trying to prevent the russians from doing the same.

[-] devaly@ani.social 2 points 2 hours ago

Yep, Saturn IV if I remember correctly

[-] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 8 points 2 hours ago

If your "we" or "us" includes the Nazis then you've probably made a mistake somewhere along the line.

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