My mental health has improved tremendously since my permanent instance-wide ban from lemmy.ml
Human rights are CIA propaganda? I thought they were enlightenment propaganda.
"That's CIA propaganda. Source: [China's Ministry of State Security, cited on truth.wiki.ru]"
Or tankies will try to gaslight you that the people tankies are accused of persecuting are actually fine and dandy. See how they respond wrt Tibetans and Uyghurs. People dismiss the horseshoe theory but when it comes to actually valuing human lives, tankies and fascists converge.
They start talking about how Tibetan people want to be occupied because they used to be slaves to the monks.
Blue maga is what they are
I've legit had a tankie tell me that wanting people to have any civil rights means you're a "liberal".
The fact that they use liberal like a slur is hilarious
I mean, if you're any farther left then it should be. I count it as an insult when I'm called a liberal since it implies I'm a Capitalist as well.
It should be explained that in Germany and France, liberal doesn't mean what it means in anglo countries. Germans and the French understand "liberal" as "libertarian". Left-liberalism in German is basically understood as "Libertarian socialism" whereas German sozialliberal ("social liberal") means social libertarianism such as the positions of most of the German Green Party (though with the influx of young new members it is slowly shifting further left).
Now if you speak of "the liberals" it usually points to the right-libertarian party FDP in Germany. We call the "wirtschaftsliberal" which means "economically liberal".
So keep in mind that definitions of terms in other political systems can be different.
I agree, considering most of the leftists here exist in an American political context it is easy to just assume at times.
Particularly when using that definition.
Lol Look who noticed us.
There is no rule that says that on this instance. Hell, denial of the Palestinian genocide is forbidden on this comm. It's funny that Hexbear users make up shit and the run on it. It's like a little gossip round. Are you still in secondary school?
Sure bud. You are just reinforcing what the meme portrays.
Nah. You just need to keep to yourselves and not deliberately come over here then it is like I am not there because I only sometimes lurk on hexbear and grad to make sure you arent plotting something in the legion of doom.
I guess some people didn't care to read the rules. Tankies and people who vehemently defend tankies get banned. There is a zero tolerance policy on tankies and other totalitarian bootlickers in the comm.
For my understanding: Aren't Tankies also the ones praising China which is the most major reason why the fascist kremlin regime can wage on with the war against Ukraine? If China and its government really wanted to support peace, they would uphold sanctions as long as Russia attacks Ukraine and has troops in Ukraine, right? This would have also brought in India (maybe a bit forcefully), to also comply with sanctions, which would have crippled Kremlins possibilities to wage war by a lot by now. Obviously and realistically that is nothing what the Chinese governments want. They want to weaken democracies as much as other non-democratic countries (like fascist countries, religious hegemonies or dictatorships etc.). Maybe its worth to not discuss about left or right (which tankies are obviously selling themself as left) but about democracy and human rights? Tankies would therefor argue about the greater good if people would not have personal human rights for "the greater good" of society (in china it's only a specific [bootlicking] minority of the ruling class?). So the other side of this spectrum would be unconditional individual freedom and rights. Bad faith arguments would want either one or the other but realistically imho, we can have good discussions and decisions, when one wins over the other. With this, i feel, even fake news have it hard to create a bad decision for people thinking about a topic and giving it some time and thoughts.
Your community for poking fun at the bullshit tankies say and spread.
Rules:
No tankie talking points. That includes the classics (denial of genocide of Uyghurs, denial of ML dictator's crimes, campism, calling everyone you disagree with a liberal or CIA etc.) and general shit opinions (general genocide denial, antisemitism, racism, queerphobia, etc.)
MLs are not communists. They never actually worked towards it and there are some who don't even define it as a stateless, classless, egalitarian society. So MLs shouldn't be called communists in the first place. Calling hating MLs anticommunism will probably expose you as either a tankie or a right winger, both of which aren't welcome here.
Right-wingers, fash, nazis, nazbols etc. are not welcome! Right wing talking points (such as anti-woke, anti-queer, speaking favorably of far right figures, being anti-antifa etc.) will get you banned pretty quickly.
Please respect people's pronouns. Deliberately misgendering people repeatedly is going to lead you to have issues with the mods. Defending misgendering will get you banned.
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On near-east topics: Nakba is an established fact. The (ongoing) Palestinian genocide is a fact. Israel commits crimes against Palestinians. No anti-Arab (such as Palestinians and Druze) sentiments allowed (it falls under racism anyways). In regards to Israel, do not dehumanize civilians. Saying shit like "there are no civilians in Israel/Palestine" will get you permabanned.
Be kind to one another. Try to deescalate any fights.
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Anti-ML memes, screenshots and humor are allowed.
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If there is demand, we can do a open discussion thread once a month. But it will get locked if in escalates into a dumpster fire.
