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[–] 157 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Didn't Mythbusters test all of these covers and coatings in like 2004 and basically none of them worked against a traffic cam of that era?

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  • [–] 57 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    It'll pretty much only do anything against a camera using a flash in the dark and even then that's probably only marginal. In normal daytime illumination everyone and every thing will still be able to see your plate just fine.

    I think I'd rather get a color e-ink display from China and mount it in a fake license plate frame, with a microcontroller behind it displaying a random assortment of plate styles and numbers as you drive along. If you see the 5-0, flip a the switch to lock it to your real plate number until they go away.

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  • [–] 88 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Cops have car mounted plate readers. If you see them, its already too late.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Unless your e-ink display has some pretty magical properties, it's going to be spotted by a cop at random sooner or later, whether that's at a traffic light, on the highway behind you, or even if they just roll by at a parking lot.

    Plus, I can assure you that the technology to instantly alert if a car shows a registration for, let's say a blue honda, but looks like a red ford, has been around for longer than flock has been in the news. It's why that shit with texas temporary license plates was such a big deal (you'd see them everywhere throughout the continent). Unless you have a way to know what other cars similar to yours have for their license plates, you're going to get nabbed. And most places make your switching thing a pretty big deal as far as punishments go.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Plus, I can assure you that the technology to instantly alert if a car shows a registration for, let’s say a blue honda, but looks like a red ford

    Ironically, I traded in my blue Honda for an orange Ford and drove it unregistered for almost an entire year and never got pulled over.

    Dealership said the would handle switching the plates and registration, and didn't do it. I only found out when I went to renew my reg.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You didn't find it weird that you never received any documents for the car in the mail for a YEAR?

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    No I did find it weird. I also found it weird that my DMV has a 6 hr wait time, and I had other shit to do with my life. Plus, I don't really buy cars all that frequently, so I'm not exactly sure what to expect when the reg gets flipped over. It's not out of the question to assume that it was done online. I never even got temp plates, the dealership said it would be fine to use my old plates.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Allow me to introduce you to the magic world of pdlc, and especially pdlc in the same size as your license plates. Its not even that expensive and can be flipped from a switch as well.

    https://a.aliexpress.com/_Ew79cNM

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    You would need a mix of IR absorbing material and IR reflective material like what they use in Zenni ID guard glasses.

    An easier way to go about it would just be to install a bright IR light pointed at your plate, it would create a glare that would make it impossible for the camera to read.

    I have an IR scope for one of my rifles and thought it would be a bright idea to install a IR flashlight to help boost the field of vision....... The flashlight I got was so bright that it just tuned the whole image white.

    So there are things that would work, but it would probably get you in more trouble than anything. It's illegal in every state to attempt to obscure your tags from being tracked in any way.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is my right. It'd be pretty simple to install a small ring of IR LED around your plate and wire them into the car lights and a back up battery in the trunk. Basically keep it glowing 24/7. Probably like, 30 bucks in hardware from Ali to start from scratch.

    Kind of wonder what it'd be like to frame he whole car in it. Like a ghostly kia soul.

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  • Might be a way to get around the intentional blocking of your plate. If you installed a bright enough IR light bar on the roof of your car pointing down the front and back.... You would probably just show up as a moving block of light, might not even be recognized as a car by the AI.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yes. You also need a ring of high intensity white LEDs pointed at your plate.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 weeks ago

    And the flocks are IR cameras, so better would be broadcasting a ton of IR light around your license plate. That being said, the camera also looks for type/size of rims and tires, window tint, visible damage, bumper stickers, dirt level, so while your license plate blocking may stop it from looking you up it won't stop it from tracking where you're going

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    [–] 66 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The foolproof solution is to sneak up to the camera, at night, with no electronics on your person, and shoot the fucking thing down.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 child)

    I mean, they make manual pipe cutters. They're not that expensive and operate silently. No reason to activate the shot spotter microphones

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  • [–] 21 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I recently watched a video about the quickest and quietest way to cut through thin wall tube, that had absolutely nothing to do with cameras what so ever. They determined portable band saws were the most practical method; balance being relatively quiet compared to other power tools while being the quickest. Manual tools were most quiet but the slowest which leaves you vulnerable.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    "Shoot"!? I'm American too, but not all problems can/should be solved with guns...

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  • [–] 49 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    What the cops in NYC do is they wedge a leaf in the plate frame, so there's always a leaf partially blocking 1 letter.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The cameras will track you anyways. You'll just get tagged as "2003 Honda civic, gray, license plates unreadable..." along with a descriptive list of any stickers on the back of the car.

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  • [–] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (11 children)

    Flock also captures WiFi and Bluetooth MAC addresses and IMEI for cell signals. Even if they don’t get a license plate if your car has wireless CarPlay or Android Auto, if you’re connected via Bluetooth, if you have an in car hotspot, or if you have any connected services (remote start, phone app, traffic), they can track you by that.

    A license plate is no longer the only identifying piece of information.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (4 children)

    As a person with modest theoretical knowledge and low practical experience in the matter (read: this might be an utterly bullshit idea), I kind of want to make a “Bluetooth shotgun” that responds to any AWK packets with a slew of spoofed info.
    If such a thing were possible, I would then make it also listen for responses, and log them with a geolocation. I would then spoof those responses every time an awk was received around that area. (This is because nonsense data can be filtered to reveal just the real responses - my device(s), but inaccurate real data would destroy the value of the surveillance.)

    Editing to add - lots of considerations. I wouldn’t want to just attack random people’s home equipment that’s seeking to pair. Maybe it only blasts out a bunch of responses when it’s an undirected advertisement or the advertisement has a MAC that corresponds to spying companies,

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    [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago

    Only criminals would bicycle

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    This is 2026 and we are still promoting this myth

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    It might work at night when flashes and such are used, it won't do anything during the day. It would also require frequent reapplication.

    You'd be better off using a sbc to design a tracking system that can identify flock camera lenses and blast them with a green laser pointer, a laser pointer which of course isn't in any way driven beyond design parameters because that would be illegal.

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    [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    And take off your damn bumper stickers

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Technically you can install infrared LEDs to shine on your license plate to wash out the license plate

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