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WARNING - MAINTAIN - 200 F. / HEADS ONLY / FROZEN FRIENDS CRYOGENIC ENTERPRISES / BOB'S JANITORIAL SERVICES

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[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago

Shout-out to the dude on the right going into cryosleep with a trans flag shirt in 1990.

[-] tyranny@crazypeople.online 9 points 18 hours ago

this comic gets at an important idea, that preserving something indefinitely means indefinite maintenance and energy, which not only has to be funded indefinitely but also is vulnerable to errors. and it gets at this idea through a fairly east-to-understand and humorous scenario. well played, Gary Larson

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago

Similar things have happened ...

Nelson went on holiday, and left a groundskeeper named Joe who barely spoke English in charge of refilling the liquid nitrogen in the capsule. While away, the pump stopped working, and the patients were allowed to decompose for several days after the liquid nitrogen had evaporated. Nelson initially refilled the capsule with liquid nitrogen but later came clean about what had happened and was sued. The patients in other capsules had also thawed out.

[-] Rooster326@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago

Those people were never waking up so what difference does it make?

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 4 points 13 hours ago

Eh, going from "might come back some day" to "definitively gone forever" still hurts. (Yes, I do realize that the word "might" is being worked super hard here)

[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago
[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Giving Futurama my first watch and all of the memes are conveniently in season 1, so far

[-] Soulg@ani.social 6 points 1 day ago

Enjoy it! But watch out for Seymour. Theres several surprise tear jerkers mixed in

[-] fake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

Argh I wasn't ready to remember those episodes

[-] W_itjust_works@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Not again. ..

god dammit bob

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

A long time I haven't heard people ranting about cryopreservation, has it become mainstream or maybe forgotten?

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

My impression was that, much like AI, we made some cool stuff and then people realized the whole "Buy in now, we'll figure out the rest later" model is a scam.

Like, i vaguely remember someone saying to freeze yourself now, and by the time we need to thaw you out we'll have the technology.

[-] Blemgo@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

I think the biggest issue is that, at least quite a few years back, is that the methods of cryogenically preserve the bodies without ice crystals forming cause the arteries to weaken due to the chemicals used instead of blood. So if they were to thaw the body they would need a way to completely replace every artery in the body, or else they will rupture everywhere inside the body once they revive it. So basically the body is doomed to be unusable.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

Yeah who can tell, not me. But the alternative is 100% guaranteed.

Also, it's not because someone tries to scam you, that it doesn't work (or will work in the future).

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

I read an article about this a while ago. Apparently the main obstacle is the formation of destructive ice crystals. They can avoid this by cooling fast enough to extreme low temperatures, which is already used in practice on very small things:

This process is now routine for eggs, sperm, and embryos, which are cooled to −196 °C in less than two seconds and can be used even after decades in storage.

There have been recent breakthroughs in preserving whole organs, albeit not indefinitely so far:

In new research, one team has been able to supercool the kidneys of pigs—animals whose organs are of a similar size to human ones—and preserve them for days. The kidneys survived being stored at −4 °C (25 °F) and eventually reimplanted back into pigs.

There's also techniques that don't rely on cooling:

Another way to prolong the lifespan of an organ is to use a machine that perfuses it with nutrients, mimicking what happens inside the body. Machine perfusion devices have become more commonly used over the last decade or so and are typically used to maintain livers and kidneys for up to about 24 hours.

They're not close to bringing frozen people back from the dead though:

When Coles’s friend Greg Fahy, a cryobiologist, studied pieces of his brain years later, he found that the brain cells, which had shrunk, “bounced back” once they were rewarmed. But that doesn’t mean the cells are alive, or that it might one day be possible to reanimate the brain. As Matthew Powell Palm of Texas A&M [the guy who did the pig organ thing] told me at the time: “There are so many ways those neurons could be toast.”

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, this is fantastic tech, nice examples! Another is that most donor organs are discarded but wouldn't be if we could cryopreserve them!

And yeah, those people already cryopreserved today will be the hardest to "get back", they were also already dead (because legislation, can't cryopreserve a living human being even if they're dying right now).

That shouldn't stop research though IMO.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't know what the hold up is. A man was successfully flash frozen in carbonite and unfrozen several months later, with temporary blindness being the only side effect. This was around 1980, I think.

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Forgotten and most that were frozen had to be scraped out of the the cryo chamber for one reason or another.

[-] W_itjust_works@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Is Disney still in the vault??

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

I get my Disney history exclusively from the Venture Bros.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 day ago

Source? I mean you sound like one of the anti-cryo people...

[-] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago
[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"Tales from the internet"

Wow, guess you don't have anything serious lol.

Why do you hate cryopreservation?

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 3 points 22 hours ago

Why do you hate cryopreservation?

You know cryo isn't a thing right?

As in: I hate martians.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 21 hours ago

But it is, we cryopreserve (and thaw) things all the time. Just not entire humans, yet.

But I understand better your aversion to it, like it was a belief and not science.

[-] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub 1 points 16 hours ago

Cryopreservation refers to things which will be reanimated when thawed. That's no more plausible than a star trek transporter.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago

They do that with small animals already.

So I guess for you advanced science is indistinguishable from magic.

[-] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 0 points 14 hours ago

I'm thinking for you there's a lot more magic than science in your world.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

No I'm working in electron microscopy, what about you?

[-] Pacrat173@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

I have no opinion on the topic this video just talks about it you don’t believe me here’s a article talking about the failures mentioned in the other comment

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

My problem with it from the starters is that it's an article from February 1992. It's like saying that cancer medicine doesn't work and link a 30 year old article. Medicine has come a long way since then!

[-] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

~~Source for it being forgotten is just my feeling on it, as for the scraping off part see here for a quick overview of cryogenic freezing history.~~

Edit: well, seems I was too slow

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

has it become mainstream or maybe forgotten?

Last I remember reading, it seems to have largely revealed itself to be little more than a scam. Although, sure-- if you're rich enough, egotistical-enough, and desperate enough, you can give yourself some comfort in the delusion that you'll be both adequately stored and then later, someone will want to try to unfreeze you at some point and cure you / de-age you.

*shrug*

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Well, how can it be a scam if they keep you?

We are getting better and better at cryopreservation and thawing all the time. It's a young technology, like cancer treatment was a hundred years ago.

As for the whole "egoistic" part, wouldn't you try to escape death by taking your cancer medicine?

And desperate? For wanting to live?

All those takes are completely wild to me. I mean nobody is forcing anyone to do it, and if you don't, well you get buried or cremated, what's the big deal?

[-] arrow74@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Just because we are getting better at something doesn't mean if we did it incorrectly in the past it suddenly becomes better.

None of these bodies were frozen in a way that matches modern techniques. No matter how advanced we become we can't fix that.

It's like if you had a washing machine from 30 years ago and said it uses less electricity now because washing machine technology has advanced so much

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

It's more like you have a huge pile of copper and electricity just had been invented IMO. It sure will work one day, that's a certainty, why not take the chance, if you can?

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

There *is* no big deal going on there, AFAIK. People have been coping with existential dread for millennia, and at this point it would be weird to expect otherwise.

My points mainly involve the fact that historically, cryo-preservation doesn't work as intended, however much improved it might be at this point. Also, there's the inevitable subtext that in a civilisation racing towards collapse, the idea that you're going to miraculously defy all odds, somehow coming back to live happier days someplace seems borderline-hilarious to me.

More probable as I see it is building yourself a rocket ship and settling on luna, where you'll enjoy feasts of moon-cheese for the rest of your days. 🙂

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago

Yeah I get it, nicely put too.

I'm much less a doomer myself and we're potentially on the cusp of super longevity and more (yay bunker cheeze after the nuclear war for centuries 😉).

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

For the record, I don't claim to be a doomer in the slightest, just someone who seeks to understand the trajectories of late-stage capitalism and global climate change. But yeah, as you say, science is always coming up with exciting new breakthroughs and such.

Btw, are you the major Moebius appreciator from a couple years ago?

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, Luna colony sounds great until you run across the Nazi stronghold on one your cheese walks.

[-] JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In which case "schipelblorp!" seems like an unusally-apt exclamation in such cases? :D

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Listen, I don't have a lot of fancy technology, but I do have a chest freezer that I haven't used in a few years. If you want to give me $3,000, I can leave your body in there for, like, five years or whatever. DM me.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂

/s

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 18 hours ago

Why the hostility? I'm being up front with my offer and I'm not guaranteeing I can make you live forever or anything. It is possible, but unlikely, that an important breakthrough might happen in those five years; sure, it might not be the MOST advanced tech, but it IS at an affordable price point after the point you need to buy anything else.

But, fine man, if you just want to be dead with absolutely ZERO chance of being revivified and cured of whatever killed you, that's a personal decision.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

🤣🤣😂🤣😂😉😂🤣😂!!!!

/s

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