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I ran Manjaro Linux as my daily driver a few years ago but slowly phased it out for Windows for some reason, and I'm finally back using Linux (currently Linux Mint). I gotta say, I don't know why I ever switched back to Windows. There's just so much freedom Linux gives you right off the bat that Windows is just plain stubborn about. The final straw for me was a couple weeks ago when Microsoft added a Copilot (Bing AI) Shortcut to my Windows 11 taskbar. They'd already added ads to my start menu and preinstalled a bunch of garbage that should be opt-in, not opt-out, so I was just fed up with it at that point. Plus, Linux is so much more customizable. Been running Mint for about a week and a half now, and honestly, I don't think I'll be using Windows much anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (11 children)

I switched from ubuntu to osx, and then from osx to Windows when they added wsl as that seemed as close to Linux as I needed.

Eventually, windowses windowsness wore me down, too. I don't much care about the freedom of linux, I don't want to tweak and customise things. I just want an os that is focused on being an environment for me to run my Web browser and run my tools.

Just get out of the way and let me do my nonsense

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

this is basically why i ditched android and switched to iphones.

at the end of the day i need my phone to be a phone more than i need complete control over everything.

same with the PC OS. i like Linux, i like Windows, under some circumstances i even like MacOS. at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what OS i'm using, so long as the software i need to run, runs.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Yhat sounds like youre looking for an OS in long term support mode. Not a good idea to use consumer OS for that purpose, as new features would always be added to retail operating systems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

What distribution are you on?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Where would you recommend a complete Linux noob start after having used Windows his entire life?
I'm in your boat: I want an OS that works (more or less) and will let me browse, listen to music and occasionally fire up a game or two without forcing new money grabbing crap down my throat.
I enjoy troubleshooting strange issues now and then, but if it's a daily occurrence I'm not interested.

Thank you in advance!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

just grab Ubuntu or Linux Mint, and ignore everyone who seems mad about things.

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, but it'll feel more at home for a windows user. Ubuntu is a good base because they include drivers that make hardware work, but aren't open source. a lot of linux os's don't do that and it just makes life harder.

Aside from that, if you have a Nvidia gpu it's going to be a pain and there's not a lot you can do about it, nvidia sucks on linux. If you want to install an app, use https://flathub.org/ - it'll make life easier in the long run to just install things from there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Cheers!

I’ll dual boot Mint then.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I'd say Debian has closed the gap, now that Bookworm and onwards include nonfree firmware by default

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While Nvidia isn't as great on Linux as other cards. It generally works. It's pretty much fine on Xorg, slowly getting there with Wayland. At least using Nvidia with Hyprland which wlroots based Wayland compositor worked for most cases.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

At least using Nvidia with Hyprland which wlroots based Wayland compositor worked for most cases.

this is the part where it doesn't work well and you are doing all these hoops to try and get something usable ;) what you consider "pretty much fine", "getting there", "worked for most cases" is all annoying and broken for others

compared to intel and amd, nvidia on linux is awful and full of roadblocks - i'll always recommend people stay away if they are going to use linux unless they are comfortable with all the pain

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I've nibbled at trying to use Linux on my home computer for years and years, but games didn't have a good track-record in Wine so I never went over.

I recently heard differently, and tried PopOS, and I've mostly been able to get all the games I wanted to play to play, mostly using Steam's own emulation using Proton, and a few using Lutris.

The only two that gave me trouble were Starfield--it had a bug with Nvidia cards and I had to wait for a Linux driver to be updated with a driver fix. (And honestly after playing Starfield, it wouldn't have mattered if it never played.) And Crusader Kings III...but only if I had it playing natively on Linux, as it's supposed to be able to. It kept constantly crashing if I clicked on a character portrait. When I switched to playing it on Proton (so emulating Windows) it's been rock solid.

I've played No Man's Sky, Cyberpunk 2077, Rimworld, Control, Alan Wake II, Baldur's Gate 3, and Valheim all successfully. (And Starfield and Crusader Kings III after some troubleshooting.) Those are modern enough that I don't feel any more disadvantaged gaming on Linux than I did on Windows (accounting for my last-gen hardware and such.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

https://www.protondb.com/ is worth a look. It shows the state of games using Proton and people list their tweaks to make games work. You can filter it to only show Nvidia GPU's on PopOS as an example too. To find tweaks more applicable to your system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

I've been playing Cyberpunk 2077 on Linux just fine as well, and Forza Horizon 4 (though the Xbox account setup was a rigmarole). Only thing I had to do was use bluetoothctl to set up my Xbox Series X/S controller, as it uses Bluetooth to connect and it doesn't work with KDE's Bluetooth setting GUI.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Windows 11 finally made me tell my boss "i'm not using that anymore." I've used Linux exclusively at home and Windows at work, but got fed up just like you. I have a VM for testing purposes as the security admin and it's actually improved my workflow since I can tear down and bring up VMs instead of using my main OS for testing.

Glad to hear you've had a positive switch as well.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Imagine being a PC guy, paying thousands of dollars for a decent rig, and not having control over it

🤡🤡🤡

All these, PC gamers got some learning to do.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I rarely use Windows but I have a dual boot situation on my desktop PC for the odd game that acts up on Linux or to recreate bug reports. Every time I boot into Windows, I’m like, “Damn, people live like this?” Why does every single thing ask for a reboot? I know the reason but why can’t that be fixed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I'm dualbooting as well, but only because a few games I play aren't supported on Linux due to their anticheat. Namely Fortnite and Destiny 2. I'd completely switch if that wasn't the case. Hopefully someday.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fellas, the FOSS team gets +1 c:

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every new Linux user counts!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Next year: The Year Of The Linux Desktop!!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Welcome home

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

For work the only thing that holds me back from using Linux is Office 365. The web apps for O365 are just not up to par for anything other than the most basic tasks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Fortunately my work uses Google docs mostly. We do have office 365 and use it for mail and their PWA is really decent.

I keep a domain bound kernel virtual machine sitting around mostly for directory services. I installed 0365 and all the supporting apps just in case I ever have a need. The real b**** of the whole thing is that Windows 11 needs a minimum of 60 gigs of storage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Using prospect mail, Thunderbird with Owl for Exchange or one of the myriad other email clients as well as teams for Linux (obviously for teams) solved the issue for me. Actual productivity apps, I've always preferred the extensibility of libre office but there's also kingsoft office, open office, etc.

To each his own though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always think about going back to Windows, but then I snap myself out of it seeing what Microsoft are doing. I still have a virtual machine for MusicBee (which... isn't the greatest in WINE, I'll just say that much) but everything else works fine. Also had a pretty good experience with Apple Music in Waydroid, with scrobbler support (Pano Scrobbler)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I was trying to get MusicBee working earlier this week and gave up, ended up trying something called Strawberry and found myself liking it for the brief amount I've used it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My workflow is too married to MusicBee to do that lol, it's the reason I keep a Windows VM handy nowadays (okay, and Apple Music if I need to do some playlist things)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

It's a breath of fresh air...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there a sub for One Drive? I use that for coursework, otherwise I could transfer over. What I do is use Linux sometimes and save my docs into a folder accessible by both OS and then just transfer it over to the proper spot on windows.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On KDE Neon, I go to Online Accounts in the system settings and add my cloud drive. Then, I can access it directly from my file manager as if it were a directory on my computer. On Linux Mint, I think I had to install Gnome Online Accounts or something like that to get a similar setup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there a windows app for flip flopping back and forth between devices?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

What do you mean flip flopping back and forth between devices? If you're trying to access the same cloud drive from separate devices, I'm thinking it's likely that whatever app is maintained by the cloud drive you are using will work on both Windows systems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I’ve been daily driving Debian with cinnamon on top. The only thing keeping my windows partition going is lack of HDR support and horrific Wayland nvidia support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Both of those features are only starting to make appearance in newer software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you using Mint ( LMDE ) or running Cinnamon on Debian directly?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Happy that you are on the light side now!

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