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Someone brought a guillotine to a city council meeting in Salem, Oregon on July 27, 2026. Not a sign shaped like one. Not a drawing. According to community accounts and social media posts, an actual guillotine structure appeared at the protest outside Loucks Auditorium, where hundreds of residents had gathered to oppose a proposed multi-billion-dollar AI data center. Company representatives reportedly assessed the scene and left, citing safety concerns — though that detail hasn't appeared in formal news coverage or official minutes.

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[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Okay, does this mean that they're conceding an effective means to counter their money?

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 hours ago

As he should, and he should stay away from now on too.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago

They should start chopping up watermelons with it and be like “what guillotine?”

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 85 points 14 hours ago

Violence is literally the only thing that works on the wealthy and the right wing. Don't even bother speaking.

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago

It's how the Suffragists finally got heard.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They aren't arguing in good faith and don't want to change their opinion so force has now become nessisary.

[-] decolo@piefed.social 42 points 10 hours ago

I believe the consensus is that a successful popular movement needs 3 elements:

  • a nonviolent protest movement to communicate and build support with the broader population
  • a political party to communicate and enable negotiations with the opposing group
  • a militant wing to provide a threat that incentivizes negotiations

Without the popular front, the political and militant groups will lose support of the population as well as their recruitment pipeline.

The political party can reduce the amount of violence and deprivation required to achieve objectives, by setting clear goals.

Without the militants, the opposing power already has a monopoly on violence and has no incentive to come to the table peacefully.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 21 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Ethiopia managed to keep the British out with something very similar.

There was a bit of a snafu, and the British sent soldiers to accompany a diplomatic envoy.

The Ethiopians made a big show of marching soldiers around the British while the diplomats negotiated.

The message was clear "we are not interested in violence, we will however use it."

The British left. They managed to keep the Italians out by kicking their ass. Repeatedly.

Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that "We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission."

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 14 points 5 hours ago

Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that "We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission."

I think this is the key, unfortunately.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 5 points 8 hours ago

That's one model!

Still gotta kill the wealthy.

[-] decolo@piefed.social 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

That can be negotiated! As a century+ of American foreign policy demonstrates, you can't just ride up and wax the existing power structures and call it a day.

You have to have something ready to replace it or you'll get the same thing again but worse.

[-] SippyCup@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

I got it. We keep exactly the same system, except every time someone amasses a net worth exceeding say, 100 million dollars, we drag them behind a truck in front of everyone who considers themselves "upper" middle class. Every year we pick someone at random who's worth at last 50 million and do the same thing.

You know, like The Lottery, but all you have to do to avoid it is not hoard wealth.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world -3 points 13 hours ago

That and suing. But threats of violence might be faster and cheaper.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Suing does not work and is not worth the cost when it pretends to.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world -5 points 11 hours ago

It has had some success in the U.S. Maybe not as effective in your country?

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago

The revolution will be adjudicated doesnt sound as good as televised.

[-] PRIMEcavitationfetishist@quokk.au 5 points 11 hours ago

Oh, it stopped them?

And I'm not rich enough to have a country.

[-] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I meant the U.S is sort of known for all of the suing we do. It's practically a tradition.

I saw "au" behind your username and assumed you were from Australia.

There have been many successes from suing here.

That and lawsuits ending in settlements.

It's pretty much the only thing that changes how a company does business.

Employee rights have had the best success.

Sexual harassment. Being fired for discrimination.

These lawsuits are expensive and a PR nightmare.

They usually result in company policy changes.

[-] Kryptkravler@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago
[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I don't like the comparison this suggests, because it paints the data-center protestors as fascist overlords.

[-] Ramsesder13te@feddit.org 3 points 11 hours ago

Good analogy. One ugly creature is scared but were still fucked...

[-] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 15 hours ago

Power to the people. When the government fails is it is the duty of the people to exercise their power

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 26 points 15 hours ago

So do the citizens...

That's why they brought a fucking guillotine.

Like, this is the result of all the shit they're pulling with bribing politicians and having them arrest anyone who talks back at meetings.

People aren't just going to lay down and take, at a certain point when the 0.01% keep violating the social contract, everyone else adapts to the new reality

It's like a little kid who cheats at Monopoly and loves the game, nothing can make them stop cheating and they always insistnon playing.

You fix that by cheating back just as hard, ruin the kids game, and teach them that if everyone plays by the rules we all have fun.

If a few refuse the rules, everyone else refuses the game.

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Short of Monopoly ever being a fun game, I agree. Push people far enough, and they'll push back.

This is really shitty reporting.

It doesn't mention anywhere that the guillotine was not functional. They make it sound like it could have been used. It was a prop.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Better that the shitheads think it's operational. Let them lose sleep over what's coming.

Maybe. I personally prefer accurate reporting. We don't need more misinformation

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

Sounds more like a shitty resistance. You can't behead the overlords with a prop.

[-] chahn.chris@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

But you could grab the overlords and put them in the prop and try?

It might even hurt more that way!

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