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Dutch regulator approves Tesla's FSD driver-assistance system but won't release safety-test details

Tesla has pressured officials to withhold safety-testing results from the public

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[-] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Exactly what leverage does Tesla have to be able to “pressure” the Dutch government? Either this article is complete clickbait (I didn’t read it for that reason) or Musk has something on somebody (which I doubt). Doesn’t make much sense.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 7 hours ago

I would never have thought I would have to write this, but I think the Netherlands should start cracking down on government corruption

[-] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 52 points 10 hours ago

We all know what it means when you don't want to publish safety test results...

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 11 points 9 hours ago

Self driving has potential to be better than humans. However lacking independent analysis I have no idea of it is. The only people who are taking have reason to lie with statistics.

Release the data- all of it- so we can figure out the truth.

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 8 hours ago

So if the self-driving machine learning algorithm learns by collecting data from human drivers, how could it ever be better than the human drivers it learns from? Especially knowing that these models are nondeterministic and often generate unpredictable and wildly incorrect output.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

It's not purely machine learning. Much of it is manually programmed in, like an adaptive cruise control.

[-] vandsjov@feddit.dk 6 points 7 hours ago

how could it ever be better than the human drivers it learns from

Not that I trust these systems too much yet, I do see why they can be better:

  1. Reaction time - can break and/or steer much fast than a human
  2. Awareness - can see “everything” all at once
  3. Never tired, influenced or disturbed
  4. What they lean from humans is not just how to handle different situations but also lean from human mistakes
  5. The fact that there are 2 billion drivers world wide (my own made up number) that needs to learn from the ground up and get better with all the falls humans brings to the table, but the car is just one AI (maybe there are more) that needs to be fine tuned to be the best

But as you say, the AI is still putting out weird things once in a while, and maybe the next big painting on the side of a truck makes the AI drive over into incoming traffic…

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Also it could monitor the exact speed, acceleration and trajectory of all the other vehicles around it, and (ideally) know exactly how to handle the car to react accordingly.

[-] BlaestEgnen@feddit.dk 1 points 8 hours ago

We should never allow FSD at all locations at once, approve easy roads (highways) first.

Then we can slowly allow more locations, as they're proving safe to do so. Whether or not Teslas are actually proficient enough doe highways as of now. I have no clue

[-] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago

Tesla, the employee said, could not provide more information to RDW “until this matter is clarified.”

Tesla wanted the approval. There was no reason to give in.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

Because we elected them to protect the rich, obviously.

[-] usernameunnecessary@lemmy.zip -2 points 9 hours ago

Yet another reason to buy Tesla

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