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[-] fodor@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 hour ago

And tax the ultra rich. If your net worth is over ten million, regardless of your income, you should be contributing big bucks to social security and federal taxes.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Yes at 100% tax. No person needs more then 10 million to live on.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 31 points 4 hours ago

It's an ass-backwards system. People making small amounts need the money now more!

It should be progressive. The first $x aren't taxed, then the next chunk are taxed a little, then the next chunk more, and so on.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 4 points 48 minutes ago

My grandparents were considerably wealthy. One year, the tax portfolio showed up in the mail and my grandmother said, "Ugh, taxes. That's terrible!" So my sister asked the obvious question: "Because taxes mean that you're losing money?" We were pretty young at the time, so we didn't fully understand what taxes were or how wealth accumulation worked.

My grandmother responded, "no, we LOVE paying taxes! If our taxes are higher, then that means we made more money last year! It's just annoying filling out the paperwork." My sister asked what it would mean if their taxes were lower. My grandmother said, "That means that we didn't make as much money, and the government takes less money from us to help people who need it. So, we donate more money in the years that we make less to make sure that people are still getting what they need."

Bonus story 1: My grandfather was in commercial real estate and was once debating with a family member about how important it is to prevent companies from converting residential zoning to commercial. The family member accused my grandfather of being a bleeding heart softie, and threw out an accusation along the lines of, "you're probably one of those people who believes that homeless people can magically succeed if you give them more handouts. You can't lift someone out of their situation by giving them things, they have to want to do it themselves."

This pissed off my grandfather who stood up to tower over this family member and said, "the last time that I bought houses for homeless people, they weren't homeless anymore. I don't know what success looks like to you, but I'd say not being homeless anymore is a pretty good start!" The family member laughed and started to retort. My grandfather interrupted him with, "it's such a shame. I was really proud of being your company's biggest donor, but now I'm concerned about who my donations are helping. I'm sure you can figure it out for yourself if you just want it enough, though."

Bonus story 2: Someone once asked my grandfather why he never got into residential real estate since it's so much easier to be a landlord for people than companies. My grandfather replied, "Charging companies to exist is cool and it forces business owners to consider their true value. Charging families to live makes you a bad neighbor."

RIP to half of the greatest grandparents ever.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 15 minutes ago

I genuinely believe if they made taxes an automated function requiring zero effort on the part of the taxed then almost no one would complain about them.

[-] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

In a fully functioning government, most people should be "profitting from" or "exploiting" the system while the top 10% pay the majority of that. The top producers, by definition, should be simultaneously the most rewarded and the most exploited in society while the bottom 50% are almost entirely "freeloading"

Its simply unsustainable any other way. A high performer born to a bottom 50% family will never make it to top 10% if the system does not function in this way, so we lose out on those "gifted" individuals to starvation or other archaic diseases

[-] Racoonwithbenefits@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 hours ago

Nah you need to raise the payouts from social security too

[-] Akh@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

Yeah the cap is based on maximum payout.

[-] searabbit@piefed.social 3 points 4 hours ago

Remove the cap on disability income and assets while you're at it.

[-] ramble81@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

If you make $176K your SS payout is $5,251/mo.
If you make $5M your SS payout is $5,251/mo.

If we remove the cap on contributions, is it fair to remove the cap on payouts?

(My personal answer is no, but it is hard to argue about the lack of equity in that case. The original cap on both ends was built with that in mind)

[-] just2look@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

If you're making $5M a year, you likely will never need any payout. Its the whole point of a progressive tax system. The wealthy can afford to pay more, and require less support from the state.

[-] Omodi@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

Social Security doesn't need saving.

this post was submitted on 07 Aug 2026
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