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Email, docs, music, maps etc have reasonable alternatives and you don't depend on others to switch (a gmail user will receive my email from tuta). But with WhatsApp either you conceal and use it or you just don't talk to people (tried convincing them to switch to signal and it simply doesn't happen)

How do you deal with it?

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[-] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Got my entire family on Signal.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Never used it. I have app fatigue. I am forced to download so many apps, make so many accounts, I really dont want to make another one. Sucks to hear how few options some countries have. The people who matter wont care how you want to keep in touch.

[-] Axioma@mujico.org 7 points 2 days ago

People from the United States can't understand how difficult is for us who live in countries where WhatsApp is used for everything, they can't understand this trend began even before Meta bought Whatsapp. In Mexico is a nightmare without WhatsApp because is the main source of communication not only for the people but for your job, delivery, assistance and more. So basically what you can do is to have a device for WhatsApp and another for your private life

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

I have two profiles on my GOS and Wapp lives on one of them. However, i manage people expectations telling them that my Wapp phone is almost always off so they know that if its urgent, they need to call or use Signal. Eventually people will understand and if they dont, i am not prepared to live my life by the needs if others. I lived at a time where there were no mobile phones. Life worked the same, albeit at a slower pace. People, we really dont need to be hyperconnected. Relax and let people understand that yheir mental status will improve once they put some rules between them and their mobile devices.

[-] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

I don't have Whatsapp and I will never use it. If people don't want to use Signal, Telegram, XMPP, Matrix, SimpleX, or Delta Chat, we will talk over RCS/SMS.

[-] jcr@jlai.lu 1 points 2 days ago

Sms is now so developped, sending pictures and videos, calling is one click away, no need to install or update : it is surprisingly useful. Then you have the same issue with Wechat for Chinese communities

[-] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

SMS is only text. Pictures and videos are MMS which, in many countries, are not configured by default, are not included in plans and cost a lot, around 0.20€/MMS.

[-] jcr@jlai.lu 1 points 20 hours ago

Ah ! I am in France, did not knew that sorry

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Only problem is that ive started noticing telcoms are discouraging their use by limiting number of sms on monthly plan. Wonder why ...?

[-] JoshsJunkDrawer@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I find not having friends helps with this

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 days ago

hard to say, I don't use WhatsApp, i deleted it when FB bought it, yes, that long ago.

[-] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

All my friends went cold turkey when I canceled all Facebook products two years ago. I switched to signal; some were using it already, some followed me, some use both. Screw the rest; they can use SMS, or snail mail, it turns out they were unreflective jerks to begin with. Culling is always refreshing. Admittedly, with signal being USA based, I will probably switch to a EU service soon, so the fun starts all over 🤪

[-] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

Delta Chat

You can choose the relays yourself as its decentralised:

https://chatmail.at/relays

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Im hearing more and more about Deltachat. Where is it based?

[-] M1k3y@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

I use WhatsApp without any Android rights other than foreground data usage. I still check my messages once a day, but if someone wants to reach me now, they have to use signal. It also makes it at least less bad for privacy.

My close circle of friends and family do use signal for me and I only get relevant messages every few days on WhatsApp, but getting rid of it still isn't possible in my situation.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don't use it. Refuse to talk with anyone that says they want me to use it. It's been working great.

Had to install and use an anonymous number that no one has for like 2 things that I was really in need to for interacting with some businesses though and for when many people were laid off in the company and that's where I needed to find some info.

Either I use Signal only or SMS which has worked great for many years. Now with RCS it's the same as any other internet based chat even with video calls.

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[-] Trilogy3452@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Naomi Brockwell TV on YT or Odyssey had a video about that, forgot the name. You basically make it more painful to communicate on other platforms, reward for using your preferred platform (e.g. offer tickets to a game through preferred platform).

Don't expect people to move completely, including close friends

[-] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 2 points 2 days ago

The few people who really care about me, agreed to contact me via SMS.
The close family even uses XMPP for me.

[-] Microtonal_Banana@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Its easy. I have never used WhatsApp. I refuse to install or use any meta apps.

[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I just don't talk to people.

I mean, I didn't watch Game of Thrones, so I'll never be a citizen of humanity. Seems like a decade and a half went by of conversations that went "So did you see Game of Thrones last night?" "No, I don't watch that show." "Oh. Bye." The sooner you realize everyone is an empty headed content consumer and there has never been anything worth saying to or hearing from any of them, the sooner you'll wonder why you even own a phone.

[-] peskypry@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

While your statement was true regarding phone (and WhatsApp) being a lifestyle choice, it has become a critical requirement for participating in the society.

In India, every little thing now requires WhatsApp. Want to contact your doctor, lawyer or want to get receipt? Good luck if you don't have a smartphone and WhatsApp.

So not having WhatsApp is not a choice. Believe me. I have been running GrapheneOS, WhatsApp free. It is so hard.

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Disagree. My doctor shouldnt be using whatsapp to communicate my health issues. We guve them this freedom. Stand for your rights.

[-] peskypry@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

The doctor isn't the problem here. They're simply trying to communicate in the most frictionless way possible. So do the billions of people. The real failure is our governments. They allow basic communication protocols to be privatized and monopolized rather than mandating open, federated standards.

[-] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

Sure, but governments don't do what is right for people. If pepple are jappy with poor software why should they intervene?

[-] Tonuka@feddit.org 11 points 3 days ago

I use like five different messengers for different friend groups. I wish I had the confidence and determination of my brother who singlehandedly forced my entire extended family to exclusively use Signal amongst each other He basically blackmailed them lmao but it worked and after 1 month of adjusting noone complained

[-] freeman@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

you know Beeper? Might be really useful for you

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It takes time. I've been "indoctinating" my family fo years. And that really just means reinforcing things we all, "regular" people included, know about big tech. Part of that meant straight up telling them I wouldn't use anything other than Signal. That worked, and a few years later I now have my mom on Linux. Sometimes doing the right thing means being stubborn and putting your foot down

Edit: my parents have both become open source evangelists, and my mom has asked me more than once the difference between Free Software and oss. My parents are also both pretty conservative so it wasn't easy to turn them. But like I said. Put your foot down. Tell them you are doing the right thing, and if it comes to it, withold tech support 😂

[-] chirayu_alias@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

This inspired me

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

i patiently explain why i refuse to use it and then speak about the preferable alternatives

[-] Eggman 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have tried not using it and it is not worth it for me. The problem was not close friends. But everyone else including all other than my direct family if i don't have WhatsApp my family just send sms and at that point I thing WhatsApp is better at least its end to end encrypted. You also exclude your self form groups that get created at clubs/association(i don't know the English word).

I decide some time ago that my person life is more important that privacy because my mental health suffered because of stressing about privacy and cutting my self socially off to some extend by not using WhatsApp.

If you use android you can install it in a privet space or a second profile so it don't run all the time in the background.

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Not at all.

[-] Winning@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I just don't talk to what Zuckerberg refers to as "dumb fucks"

It's seriously so self fulfilling. Markey mark made it so easy to not be a dumb fuck. It's literal actual written instructions on how to not be a dumb fuck. Millions fail the written instructions.

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[-] ndupont@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Never had WhatsApp, never will

[-] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I use the Whatsapp Business app which allows me to be added to groups that I can’t avoid (kid’s class groups, kid’s soccer groups and my wifés family group) and to have an automatic message for people writing to me privately saying I won’t answer except if they write to me on Threema, Signal, iMessage, SMS or email.

With my own family and friends I only use Threema and Signal, even if I kind of lost or got further of some friends with my stance.

Still, I already don’t have enough time for myself, so I’m not looking to have more friends.

In my country, Whatsapp is almost everywhere, so I’m not don’t think I’ll be able to 100% leave it without sacrifizing some of my kids activities sadly..

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[-] gratux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago

Everyone I talk to regularily has Signal or Discord (yes i know I would prefer Matrix or something), basically the only reason I have WhatsApp is one or two group chats I don't read.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

If Discord, why not WhatsApp?

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[-] Toryu122@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Thats the neat part, you dont

Unlike all the apps you named it, "users" is what make it still alive to this day

You gonna have to use it with Signal if you want to use Signal that much, or just dont

[-] ptt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I make like-minded friends. They don't use WhatsApp either.

[-] ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

conceal

I think you might've made a typo here, did you mean concede?

Yes, you give up if you want to talk to them. What else csn you do. Ten year campaign to switch everyone?

[-] zammy95@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I've only met one person who actually uses Whatsapp before and asked me to download it. My mom just asked me if I knew what it was 2 months ago because I guess it's popular on cruises. It certainly doesn't seem popular enough to have to deal with here at least

[-] calmblue75@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You're in a lucky part of the world. In my area, Whatsapp is used a lot for sharing attachments mainly, e.g sending a photo of a receipt for claiming warranty, contacting government officials, etc. People here do understand that if I say I don't use it, and even though they agree to use SMS and email, it still slightly annoys them as it is out of their norm. I am living by till now without Whatsapp, but it's really difficult.

[-] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

I managed to do a surprisingly good job convincing a decent chunk of my friends to move over to signal several years back and they've mostly stayed. I still have WhatsApp but it's a much more secondary chat app for me now days.

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