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[–] 220 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Honestly, they should not ban them, and then just low-key encourage enterprising attendees to pwn the devices and any attached accounts. That would be delightful.

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    [–] 184 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Defcon is not the place I’d want to wear something like that and make myself a target. Of course, I’d be embarrassed to wear them anywhere, but afraid at Defcon.

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  • [–] 100 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Shit, I’d be scared to go anywhere near defcon with any device.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I was afraid walking into the room with the wall of sheeple just bc I was wearing a button down in spite of being the sole sponsor of the hackathon. I (as instructed) left my watch, phone, laptop etc at hotel and only brought locked down Chromebook and lived in sweaty terror every keystroke. All while they were stoked and loving the sponsor not just buying a logo, and sent me back with like 500 bucks in swag easily to share back home at the office. Still.... Terror.

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  • [–] 137 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    All hidden cameras should be illegal, I don’t care about your “hands free convenience”

    This is like anti pervert laws 101

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yep. If you want to record everything going on from your POV, strap a GoPro to your head and see if people's moods change about it. If they clearly don't want that, they don't want the "convenient" hidden cameras either. Simple as that.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago

    They don't want people knowing they are being recorded.

    A gopro or a phone held up is basically an indicator of recording happening, which people can choose to avoid if they want to.

    But pervert glasses don't hold up that signal, and the pathetic attempt to make a signal (the LED) is easily covered or otherwise bypassed so you can creep on people without them ever knowing.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    conference organizers said they have imposed a ban on “Meta-style glasses with recording capabilities.”

    Dammit. I was hoping they explicitly called them "pervert glasses" like the headline suggested.

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    [–] 51 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    I like how these only became a problem because Meta made them which meant a bunch of morons bought it.

    Hidden and pinhole cameras have been a commercially available thing for decades, even on glasses.

    Hell they even made one as a kids toy you could buy.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago

    Well, morons bought it and the device is directly connected to a data harvesting company. I think that has more to do with it. One lone weirdo with a hidden camera and a home server isn't the same kind of boogeyman

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  • [–] 24 points 1 month ago

    only became a problem because Meta made them

    Anyone who remember "glassholes" knows this isn't new. Wearing a camera on your literal eyes is still a step too far in this otherwise compromised world.

    But yes, I think the big issue here, as others pointed out, has to do with the nature of the company producing them. That'd be especially important for a place like DEFCON, which is all about securing your data.

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    [–] 51 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    Like, I guess I don’t understand why these damn things have a camera in the first place. At most they should be roughly equivalent to a smart watch - a display and some controls. Maybe bone-conducting headphones or something for audio. It’d be neat to have navigation prompts in glasses, for instance. Buy why a fucking camera?!

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  • [–] 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (19 children)

    Were it not for the fact that it's the fucking privacy-invading big tech companies doing it, I would admit that there are good use-cases for the camera:

    • Reminding you of the name and possibly previous interactions with the person you're talking to, for instance (if it only did local lookup based on consensual photos you had previously added to your address book). I'm not face-blind or anything, but my memory is bad enough that that would be helpful to me.
    • Scanning, OCR-ing and making searchable any papers you're looking at (hooking to your selfhosted Paperless-NGX).
    • Displaying augmented-reality translations of street signs (which is one of the few reasonable things Google Glass actually did).
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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Yes this is the exact thing I'm interested in. Camera is definitely not something needed here. There are some like this on the market like the MemoMind. I'm waiting for one with progressive lens support like the Even Realities G2 but with audio added.

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    [–] 50 points 1 month ago

    I love the fact lately meta glasses are called pervert glasses constantly.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I prefer the term 'pedofocals'

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  • [–] 35 points 1 month ago (1 child)
    1. Go to Def Con
    2. Wear internet connected camera in bathroom and while typing all passwords
    3. ???
    4. Profit
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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    So have shirt that says, "If you can read this, you may be recorded for your safety and for quality assurance purposes." That's what corporations do, right? Should solve the concerns?

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    [–] 31 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    I personally hate the fact that capatilists have fucked our trust so much we can't have augmented reality glasses. I was really looking forward to that.

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    [–] 31 points 1 month ago

    San Diego ComiCon banned them, and Dragoncon is going to ban them.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (8 children)
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    [–] 16 points 1 month ago

    PervSpecs®

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago
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