First of all, fuck Microsoft. But I prefer a reality where Xbox exists as at the very least a competitor
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Gamepass didn’t make their games shitty.
Starfield’s revenue sits at roughly $300 million across all platforms. [...] a figure surely sabotaged by the Xbox and PC-exclusive RPG being readily available on Game Pass from the second it landed.
Well, let's not forget that it was often not highly regarded, because the content was spread out so much. And that it launched in the wake of Baldur's Gate 3.
I can also watch a season of a TV show far faster than I can play through a video game at the size that AAA publishers keep making them.
Yeah, similarly, you don't rewatch movies or series all too often, but there's quite a lot of people that just play one or two games pretty much forever...
I hate Microsoft. I love XBOX.
I hate Nintendo. I love Nintendo games.
I hate Sony. I loved Sony.
I love VALVE. I love Steam.
PC is the Endgame.
Until Gabe has a heart attack, venture capitalists takes over and stab all the PC gamers in the back. I guess there will be warning signs and it’s still people to un-DRM some Steam games so for now we’re ok.
People seem to forget Valve was ahead of the curve of being anti consumer. They were the first to really heavily push online DRM for single player games (Half Life 2) and made online marketplace games mainstream (TF2 store items like hats and CSGO skins). I wish they would make a new ground breaking single player game that wasn’t relegated to VR but I digress.
People will have to buy exabytes of disk in a rush to download their Steam libraries, storage prices will soar (again).
Sony has always been 'cool but evil' and haven't really changed.
i really dont understand why people dislike game pass. i am mainly a pc player so i use it there but i also have an xbox. i have played so many games i woild have never tried and i live having the xbox studio games on release. i am a patient gamer so i always waited for a game to drop below $40. its nice having access to so many.
i honestly dont get the hate.
That's fine and dandy but what if it was the only option to play games? What happens when Gamepass is 49.99 a month? And a couple years later, it is 54.99, the 64.99.
What if they start gate keeping your save files? What if licenses expire and they get delisted and you can't play them ever again?
This is the problem with Gamepass, and all subscription services if they dominate a market.
Piracy is an option. Your existing game library is an option. There is no shortage of alternative game marketplaces. Especially on PC where people still overwhelmingly prefer Steam even in cases where it costs more. I'm not saying it's impossible but the odds of it happening in the current market is extremely unlikely.
People dont want a subscription to play games, it only made sense as an extension of Xbox Live. Outside of that it was mainly used as a way to demo some games for a month, or play that one game for $1.
Just buying games has way more value overall.
Day 1 AAA games were its biggest value in my opinion, because those are the most expensive games. I forgot the exact old prices, but I think on PC it was 12 and on console 15 Euros. Paying 180 Euros per year to "lend" them is still cheaper then buying one AAA game each or just every second month. I'm not the biggest fan of subscription. When I stop paying, then I loose access to those games. Yes, that's the point of it, but that is also the problem I have. When the point of as service is a problem, then we have a problem. Therefore I purchase games rather (especially on PC). But that's not the value for everyone else. Game Pass genuinely had its value, even if you subscribe for a few months in a row.
Yeah, I get it.
But we just dont want to set a precedent either.
How long until games are exclusive to game pass? You know thats the path they want to take. We gotta reject the service before it takes over and screws everyone.
You are locked in and they can just change the price whenever they want.
More subscription services will pop up, fragmenting the space, like the video streaming of today. Now you have to pay for multiple subs to play games you want to.
The ones who hate it are the ones who see what it will become.
I can spend the monthly Game Pass cost on a new Steam game once a month and add to am ever growing, "permanent" library rather than just piss my money away on renting games.
Game Pass was great when it was literally only $1/month. After that, the value of it rapidly declined.
i have played so many games i woild have never tried and i live having the xbox studio games on release. i am a patient gamer so i always waited for a game to drop below $40. its nice having access to so many.
Subscription gaming has its problems but I'm with you on this.
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