Of all the people who have incredibly strong opinions about not-so-incredibly important things, the virulently anti-systemd crowd are among the ones that baffle me the most.
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There's legitimate criticism of systemd and I do understand that people can hate it.
Anyways, systemd is so nice to use. Even more with nixos.
I'm trying to use alpine Linux on a VM. The amount of things depending on systemd is extreme. It's a pain in the ass not having it.
Orr... I'm shitty at Linux.
It's like that very very old joke...
Geek: "So then I brought the girl home..."
Excited crowd: "and then?"
Geek: "then I pushed the keyboard and sat her on my desk..."
Excited crowd: "woah, you have a PC? What processor do you have? Do you overclock? What cooling do you use?"
at first i read it as greek and was very confused
Linux users: come join the community! It's free, safe, and accessible!
Also Linux users: you fucking swine? You do WHAT?!
Like just be happy more people are joining the community and contributing. Shesh
I once saw a guy standing on the edge of a bridge, about to jump. I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"
He said, "Why shouldn't I? Nobody cares about me."
I said, "Well, do you run Linux?"
He said, "Yes."
I said, "Me too! Desktop or server?"
He said, "Server."
I said, "Me too! Debian-based or RPM-based?"
He said, "Debian-based."
I said, "Me too! Debian stable or Ubuntu LTS?"
He said, "Debian stable."
I said, "Me too! systemd or an alternative init?"
He said, "Alternative init."
I said, "Me too! runit, OpenRC, or s6?"
He said, "s6."
I said, "Me too! s6 with s6-rc as the service manager, or s6 with 66?"
He said, "s6-rc."
I said, "Me too! s6-rc with the full supervision tree defined declaratively, or with hand-rolled run scripts?"
He said, "Hand-rolled run scripts."
I said, "Die, Poettering apologist!" And I pushed him off.
I was genuinely looking for alternatives to systemd, just because I was curious.
I stumbled upon: https://nosystemd.org/
The anger sits deep. What a beautiful sight.
That site is unusable on FF mobile.
It has some craptastic scroll animation thing happening and have disabled the FF reader mode somehow.
Which is a shame, I'd like to have read it :-(
Works on my machine
Systemd and Wayland have become ragebait for some people.
There's no way he'd get laid with a keyboard like that.
Gentoo lured me into OpenRC a long time ago and it's just basically my go to now. It's just so easy and "feels" less bloated to me.
I do as well and honestly after looking into the effort required to switch Iβm not gonna. Altho my Linux doesnβt boot rn sooooβ¦ xD
The effort required is to install a distro without it. That's it. Some without it are even quite popular, like MX Linux.
Clarification: I don't care either way about systemd, just saying, it requires no effort to avoid.
What are the alternatives to systemd? Why people are hating it (besides the AI slop and age verification stub in it)? Why is it not written in the D programming language?
Old man yells in SysVInit

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