As part of the devs farewell message on their site, they have included malicious code to make each visitor sends 2,000 requests to the dbzer0 servers in an attempt to DDOS and take the instance offline.

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[–] [M] 9 points 1 month ago

This is an important post and I appreciate the insight into the happenings on the Fediverse, but the comment chains are going off the rails and I’ve issued a number of bans from this post alone.

Locking.

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  • [–] 447 points 1 month ago (17 children)

    I don't think I've ever witnessed someone going so hard off the rails. It's been an entertaining few days really.

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  • [–] 246 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

    It’s what happens when someone with underdeveloped empathy gets caught doing something they know is wrong, resulting in emotional overload.

    It’s textbook toddler tantrum.

    With stunted empathy, people seeking an explanation and apology are met with increasingly greater resistance.

    And like textbook, they claim to be the victim. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are lying about receiving death threats.

    What’s crazy is they could have simply:

    • Apologised
    • Explained the intent to reduce toxicity
    • Agreed there was a lack of transparency
    • Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

    But no. They were caught while they were secretly trying to play internet dictator and refused to empathise with others that were hurt and shocked to find out a tool they were using was receiving undisclosed payloads to use to censor communities and individuals.

    I strongly implore everyone to leave this developer alone. Jokingly asking to be added to the list etc empowers them to continue to play the victim. They do not deserve attention.

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  • [–] 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    What’s crazy is they could have simply:

    • Apologised
    • Explained the intent to reduce toxicity
    • Agreed there was a lack of transparency
    • Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

    Yes, I think there is genuinely an audience for what he was doing (or something akin to it), and it would genuinely have been a useful onboarding tool for getting a certain type of person to consider dipping their toes in the Fediverse.

    But first of all it absolutely has to be separated from the safety/anti-spam filters. Bundling it with those is very malicious.

    Second it must be opt-in.

    Third, it must clearly say somewhere that "this anti-toxic setting is a curated block list based on my personal preferences". There should then have been an option to use a personal blocklist instead of the developer default.

    And fourth, I guess ideally this type of filter should maybe have been maintained by a somewhat more... well-balanced individual.

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  • [–] 109 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Anyone who thinks "yeah lgbt stuff should be hidden because we want to attract people who don't want to see LGBT stuff" is someone I don't want anywhere near the fediverse.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (16 children)

    Refactored their existing “enable toxicity mode” feature into a clearer, toggleable blocklist feature

    No! The whole point of the fediverse is not to have centralised blocklists. Having blocklists baked in to the code, especially ones that get updated in a centralised manner with no accountability and without telling users they're on it is absolutely antithetical to the platform and one of the main reasons why people are leaving reddit and coming here. If you want to curate the experience of a user in that manner, what you do is open an instance and advertise it as such. That way people can, at least on lemmy, know where they're banned from without having to dive into the code or pull API endpoints manually. In fact how a lemmy instance federates and how it curates this experience is one of the distinguishing features among the instances. You have instances like lemmy.zip that federate all that will have them, instances like hexbear that are very quick to defederate in order to keep a safe-space and instances like blahaj that are somewhere between.

    A front-end (or any piece of code that is made for being deployed on multiple instances) should be agnostic to all of this. It's up to the admins of the instances and not the devs to curate and this is one of the main reasons why I don't trust the piefed dev. Sure you can disable almost everything, but that still means that an admin has to do work in order to get to a neutral place from where they can then curate.

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    [–] 180 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    he is probably still reading these discussions lol

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    [–] 173 points 1 month ago (16 children)

    In case somebody wanted confirmation. Maybe don't visit the page with Javascript enabled.

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  • [–] 113 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    And that full text, also to avoid extra visits:

    You crazies won and proved me wrong. The fediverse isn't worth saving after all.

    Over the course of the last several days, I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance's top admin. This is unacceptable for all of the reasons in the world, and while I won't give you the personal satisfaction of having won, you've definitely proven me wrong about the fediverse being something that even can be saved from itself.

    Even people around here I'd interacted with positively for years and had grown to respect because they seemed level headed and above the immature and sociopathic bullshit that dominates this platform showed their true selves. That completely shattered any and all illusions I had that this place has a hidden core of users that I should try to make more visible amongst all the rage, rage baiting, propaganda, harassment, rumor mongering, trolls, conspiracies, purity testing, witch hunts, and violent rhetoric.

    Like many of the rational people before me who called this place home, I'm done with this place.

    I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren't me actually want a place that's not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.

    Then you have entire instances whose admins call for the death of others, harass other users, and lead harassment, brigading, and DARVO campaigns against those who dare call out their bullshit or decide to disassociate themselves and their work from them.

    Lemmy.World was so close to doing the right thing after instance-that-will-not-be named's admins were calling for the death of LW's admins while spreading rumours and labeling others in such a way that painted them as targets for murder. All of that, mind you, with absoultey no evidence other than specuation and their own cooked-up conspiracies about modlog actions or taking and twisting things wildly out of context to fit their made-up narratives so they had someone to say they 'caught' and should be killed.

    .world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.

    "We have to worry about the optics or the politics of it." they probably said.

    Bullshit.

    I'm one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse. If I can stand up for what's right and deal with the blowback, so can you.

    Fuck lemmy world's admin team for condoning that behavior and letting the human skidmark db0 DARVO his way out of the situation while brigading with his army of malcontents whom he wields like a cult leader. He knows exactly what he is doing, and you all continue to allow him to get away with it.

    Nah, fuck this whole place. I've let too many things fall by the wayside IRL because of dealing with all this fediverse bullshit and trying to give it the slightest bit of polish both visually and atmospherically. Mythbusters may have proven that you can, in fact, polish a turd, but at the end of the day, it's still a shiny ball of shit.

    For the few people left who didn't turn out to be psychotic, I'll think of you from time to time when recalling something you've posted or commented that genuinely made me laugh, made me think, or otherwise put a smile on my face or in my heart.

    Everyone else, though, enjoy your toxic, xenophobic, knee-jerk-to-violence, purity-testing, and harassing-anyone-who-doesn't-fall-in-line cess pit. One day you, too, will do or say something that doesn't toe the line and you'll be right where I am.

    P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you're welcome.

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  • [–] 99 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    The disconnect from reality is insane. They completely ignore why people got mad and make up imaginary reasons for why they got the hate while painting themselves like some hero trying to stand for us but getting betrayed in return. It's both hilarious and sad. I hope that they will have time for self reflection once they get off the threadiverse and become a better person but I don't have much expectations given how deep they are into the delusion.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I have received a constant stream of harassing messages, death threats, and threats of doxxing over DM, Matrix, Github, and Codeberg. All of it instigated and eggged on by another instance's top admin.

    I'm getting pretty sick of this kind of claim. Like, do I believe he's been harassed? Yeah, that seems likely. Death threats? That's definitely possible. What I take issue with is the way it's brought up.

    He frames that it's a campaign run by a particular individual targeting him, but there are no receipts. He's using it as a shield against critique, shutting down any discussion around this by pointing at something and screaming about how he's a big victim here.

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    [–] 135 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I think this is the first time the whole fediverse agrees to who the asshole is.

    Thanks, dev of Tesseract, you actually left a positive impact on the fediverse. Please don’t come back.

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    [–] 133 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    It'd be hilarious if this dude went to prison over this, because it seems like he finally crossed from "annoying and unethical but legal" to straight up illegal.

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    [–] 118 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

    I could understand hardcoded blacklists if Tesseract was meant as a frontend for a Lemmy instance tailored for a specific purpose, and not intended for general use. But this, to DDOS a website because the developer is a whiny baby who can't take criticism? This is a new low. This is disgusting, and damaging for the Lemmyverse as whole.

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    [–] 111 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Tesseract is officially malware. What a petulant child Patrick is.

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    [–] 92 points 1 month ago

    I've never seen a dev do something like this. Pretty incredible that he put that in the code. It just shows the maturity level of these guys.

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  • [–] 79 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    "Apparently only three people who aren't me actually want a place that's not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate."

    I think this is the best part of their message

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  • [–] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

    My favorite part of this was in the "elephant in the room" post.

    One of his faq questions was something about if the list is a perma-ban. His answer was somewhat incoherent but basically if you stop being toxic you can get off it. But nothing about how. So either he's actively monitoring thousands of accounts that he's also secretly hiding from everyone else, or we were supposed to, I don't know petition him with our last 50 comments to prove we had changed and ask nicely to not be on a list we weren't supposed to know existed in the first place.

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    [–] 73 points 1 month ago (9 children)

    He didn’t like my photography so he put me on the list.

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    [–] 72 points 1 month ago (23 children)

    Well, there's another one going down the deep end. Can anyone enlighten me why there are devs losing their minds on the regular and pulling everyone else into their shitshow? Most of the time those people are actually skilled, but something goes wrong and they become megalomaniac, believing they are the arbiter of truth and a gift from god we all should be thankful for while they pull more and more insane shit.

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    [–] 69 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Wow, this went from petty to downright malware by proxy. Real mature.

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    [–] 66 points 1 month ago (18 children)

    What an actual manchild

    People who are actually done don't write several essays in a week and set up targeted DDoS

    Imagine having such an oversized ego to think that your views are the only correct ones, and then that it's your duty to enforce them on others in clandestine ways.

    Particularly when those views are ultimately not much more developed than those you'd expect a child to hold

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    [–] 64 points 1 month ago*

    Dear Lord, please grant me this level of pettiness and the presence of mind to wield that pettiness only against those who deserve it. Amen.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I was suspecting this guy might be a fed just because of their actions, but this crashout has proven me wrong, he was doing it for free.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    This person is most likely mentally ill. I tried to point out a bunch of weird shit that the dubvee instance was doing two or three years ago. I was mostly ignored and made to feel like I was crazy. So I just dropped it and tried to block and ignore anything from Dubvee on my own clients. So it’s quite vindicating to see this asshole get totally blown up for days now all over the fediverse. But also kind of tiring, like we’re reverting back to bean memes just to get a break from this drama.

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    [–] 61 points 1 month ago

    jesus christ he just needs to take the l

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  • [–] 59 points 1 month ago (27 children)

    Fascists literally cannot help themselves.

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    [–] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    I tried to carve out a space where those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies and where people who choose to use the platform to harass others were also out of sight, out of mind. Apparently only three people who aren’t me actually want a place that’s not just a circle-jerk of rage and hate. Thus sayeth the mob.

    100% that dude was running an op. If you want to "carve out" such a space, that would be an instance for the "non-crazies" where all "those people and other rougher edges were not drowning out niche communities and hobbies" were banned or filtered out. You can block and filter however you want on your instance. In fact that is one of the expectation one has of an instance and how one chooses an instance. I chose blahaj because of how the admins, you know, administrate and curate the instance. Writing a front-end and smuggling in a blocklist via other commits (no commit message ever acknowledged the blocklist as it was being built afaik) and having a central point of truth for what and who gets filtered is not how you "carve out" a space, it's how you try to shape discourse on an entire platform.

    That DDOS attempt is him being extremely mad at db0 for thwarting this before his front-end became the de-facto standard for power-users, especially mods and admins.

    .world was on the precipice of doing the right thing and disaccociating themselves from that psychotic shit show, but silently dropped the issue and carried on as usual after wringing their hands for maybe two weeks.

    Oh yeah they just silently dropped it, they still owe db0 an apology for throwing all this shit at them right immediately after the nazi allegation got debunked.

    I’m one person and have held my fucking ground, mostly with dignity and grace, in the heat of my own shitstorm of trying to disaccociate from the extremist elements of the fediverse.

    You already had ragequit the fediverse last year remember? This is just lolcow behavior at this point.

    P.S. Rimu, you owe me a beer. No one is talking about the Piefed vote quotas anymore, so you’re welcome.

    I sometimes do wonder what goes on in the matrix rooms around the fediverse lol. Seems like someone fell out of favor with even the most liberal of the anti-tankies.

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    [–] 51 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    This Admiral Patrick person needs mental counseling of some kind.

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    [–] 50 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    I still don't know what Tesseract is and now I guess I don't need to care.

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    [–] 48 points 1 month ago

    I can see that someone wants to feel big, but once he was ousted, we could all tell how small and fragile he is, and he had to make himself even smaller.

    This is so pathetic it's hilarious!

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Far out, how unhinged is this guy??

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    [–] 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    You know, I think this whole situation could've been boiled down to just make an instance and defederate, instead we got the FediKaren of the year with their silly obscured list and petty shoddy ahh ddos script.

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    [–] 43 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    And that's how you go from loser troll to criminal. 👋

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    [–] 42 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Classy.

    Dude should reflect about running into assholes all day.

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    [–] 42 points 1 month ago

    What a scumbag

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