Developer is targeting individuals with a blacklist he maintians, enabled by default. Dev can do what he wants, but I'd like my home instance to consider removing it as a front end.

YSK post: https://lemmy.world/post/49813386

Dev post about it: https://lemmy.today/post/57096701

Blacklist: https://copyparty.adrian.place/u/?doc=policy.json

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[–] [M] 135 points 3 months ago* (10 children)

Yeah we'd been discussing this but nobody had a chance to make this thread about it yet. It feels dishonest for the app to have these hidden biases, so I'd rather just kill it.

I've pulled tesseract down now.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago (6 children)

    Argh this sucks. The UI is so much better than everything else.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    Just a bit. It's not bad but I don't like the look as much. I really like the comment nesting though. I wish the mod options were better, not that I use them all that much.

    Maybe I'll bounce back and forth between photon and blorp and see which one sticks.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    What are some of the features that you like? Maybe some of the other front ends can replicate it / add it

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    It's primarily just the look. Photon's easily the closest both in terms of appearance and features. I honestly haven't given other front ends a serious look for a long time, so I'll check them out and hope that team tess runs out of crazy pills soon.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Consider using the fork by db0 which removes this stuff: https://github.com/db0/tesseract

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  • [–] 11 points 3 months ago*

    But are they going to actually maintain it?

    Edit:

    This fork was created by a divisions by zer0 admin after we noticed the original developer silently blacklisted all leftist and trans-friendly instances like the massive turbolib they are. We just removed his blacklist and we'll eventually drop this frontend once lemmy 1.0 comes around.

    So not a huge commitment, though I'm not sure how close 1.0 is to release.

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  • [–] 36 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    The highest fucking honor I’ve ever received: being blocked by a wimpy little fascist:

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  • [–] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 child)

    Probably a good idea. Too much shady shit.

    E: Am apparently on the blocklist! 🥳

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  • [–] 27 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Good lord, I've tried to read the post, but Dev is such an edge lord I'm beginning to suspect Elmo himself vibe coded it.

    At least I'm part of the list, being filtered out by this asshole is an honor.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    Oh shit, I am on the block list. 😂

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    [–] 20 points 3 months ago (11 children)

    I didn't even know what Tesseract was before this, and I'm on the blacklist.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (9 children)

    I didn't even know what Tesseract was

    I still don't know.

    My searching tells me Tesseract is open source OCR software, but that doesn't make sense in the context I'm seeing in these threads.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago* (3 children)

    This page might help, it explains what alternative UIs are and which ones are available. Some of them can also be used in the mobile web browser.

    https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/threadiverse/alternative-uis

    (It says tesseract is available on lemmy.ca, but that is out of date now)

    This issue with Tesseract affects anyone that was using it. So it is possible that someone did not see a comment or post you made, without knowing why they could not see it. Past that, it likely hasn't affected you since you said you don't use it :)

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

    It's a semi-popular Lemmy web frontend that a lot of Lemmy sites use instead of Lemmy itself. It seems like the original repo by asimons04 has been taken down, but here's a random fork of it for example.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (4 children)

    I have no objection to stuff like the nsfw blocklist by default, I can even think of justification for a lot of filters. But the way it was done is shady and weird.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    This whole thing is crazy for current users. I'd been trying to figure out why Tesseract was behaving so strangely when I hadn't changed anything. Digging through settings and messing around with filters. There was no notice at all. And this only makes sense if you only use Tesseract. I use Voyager on my phone and I was receiving notifications there that weren't appearing in my browser. I'd post comments from my phone and not be able to see them in Tesseract because I guess someone else in the comment chain was on this list. Usability nightmare.

    And then you can't disable it without having a big ever-present content warning telling you you're in Toxic Mode. Yeesh. You know who else is a level-headed guy who's been wading through the sewage for 3(+) years? THIS GUY. I know my way around this glorious sewer, my dude.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 months ago

    Yea I think some of this would work better as an automod or reporting tool.

    I've played with Reddit's automod, and even well designed automod regex tends to make lots of mistakes, and you need to slowly make adjustments to refine it.

    Other parts of it should have been opt in, and ideally in a way that you can import any list. That would also help with the gaming issue, since a bad actor can't look at one list and game it when people can be using any combination of blocklists. Similar to how ublock origin does it.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    To disable them (referred to as enabling Toxic Mode in the settings), it's as simple as:

    Settings -> Advanced -> Click the "I feel like some content is missing. What's up?" text at the bottom -> Enable Toxic Mode

    Hahaha

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  • [–] 17 points 3 months ago (1 child)

    Hell yeah, made the list. You know us Canadians and how abrasive we can be.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 months ago

    Look at that, I made the list.

    I will take it as a badge of honor.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

    It's nice, and I know the https://lemdro.id/ instance has it as the default

    However since it is a third party frontend, there is a chance that a future Lemmy update will come out without having full Photon support right away. So it's usually safer to keep them separate, and encourage people to try out the frontends to see what they like

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