Its so weird how the wind could carry something like that off a pole and dump it so far away.
That doesn't seem right.
It should be Flock camera fragments clogging the water intake at data centers.
Oh come on. Really guys? We are stealing these high tech pieces of equipment and just tossing them in a body of water to fry them? Such a fucking waste. Those panels and batteries are just itching to be repurposed, or at the very least harvest the copper. No need to pollute.
The thing about them having a lot of copper is a meme/lie trying to get druggies to tear them down for a chance at a good payout at a scrapyard.
Panels and batteries though, absolutely. Pretty sure some people already are reusing some.
The boards and such can be broken down into precious metals if you’re desperate but yeah generally not worth it for the raw materials.
I would be shocked if it were worth it on anything short of an industrial scale. We're talking a very small amount of material, and a lot of fiberglass and ... I can't bring myself to say junk, but "delicate components made of basically sand".
I wonder how accessible the power source is and if anyone would even notice if a custom small additional camera was attached to these stupid things that was programmed to identify cop cars and share to a public tracking map.
And get caught with them and catch a felony, naw not going to happen.
I'm betting these things are put pretty tough to breakdown / dismantle.
This isn't vandalism. It's an art piece protected by the first amendment showing the flaws in the fourth amendment.
lol their stupid "key takeaway" section contains a made up a mention of thieves, that aren't anywhere else in the article.
II don't condone property damage, but you won't hear me complaining about taking non-violent actions that benefit everyone...just be aware that those things are definitely GPS tracked and send pings to the main hub to signal that they're still working, so other cameras definitely point at the spots where flock cameras are supposed to be once they stop sending those pings
I don't condone property damage
Honest question, why not?
Because any other kind of property damage doesn't help anyone's case
On the contrary, it’s the only thing that ever has.
Would you have been advocating against the Boston Tea Party in 1773?
Mascarading as Native Americans to deflect blame when you're caught in a tax protest.
You'll notice the only people who still hagiographize the Tea Party today are right wing Chuds and reactionary libertarians.
Yes, but now things are different and the media push a false narrative about what you actually want.
Being an environmentalist that sets fire to tesla charging stations? Well I guess you don't actually care about pollution if you want all the plastic to be burning
responding with violence when someone doesn't understand you're one person but call yourself a "they" and "them"? that doesn't help with being accepted, that's only going to make people hate you
But everyone who understands what flock cameras are all about will be in favor of people cutting them down. There was that ethical hacker who revealed to the world that he was able to get into them with no password or credentials of any kind and he found out that flock cameras zoom in on people's phone screens and kids' faces. Flock cameras are a genuine threat to people's safety just imagine what a criminal hacker could do with them or what those people might've done already? You could stalk people and figure out when their kids will be home alone
Those are poor examples of property damage to affect change. Why would an environmentalist destroy an electric vehicle station? And someone responding with violence to being mis-label is just an asshole, violence or property damage is only effective if directed at those that can affect change.
Now someone who cuts the charging cord at a Tesla station in protest to Elon's hold on our collective information (DOGE), or someone slashing the tires of a vehicle belonging to ICE, now we're talking.
I don't think property damage is or should be the answer to just any societal ill, but I absolutely support it when they've taken away other reasonable forms of redress. Flock fits that bill, as does ICE, etc.
I agree with you on your final point, specifically about Flock. Which is why I would never say that property damage isn't he answer.
Legal liability reasons.
Here, let me burn down your house.
That's why - foundational civics.
They’ve broken the social contract. How does Flock surveillance fit into your definition of foundational civics?
Exactly.
When the wealthy have destroyed the social contract, it's not just a bad idea to tell people how important it is to stick to the social contract, but it also puts people in danger to encourage them to do so.
Instead, it's important to first look out for your own safety. It's reasonable to consider that you want to avoid doing things that would put you in danger(like solo acts that might get you arrested), but it's literally everyone for themself. The social contract is gone. If you see an opportunity to do something like that, it's going to come down to your own decision about whether it's worth it.
I'm not going to advocate that you do something like that, but I'm certainly not going to tell you not to do it.
those things are definitely GPS tracked and send pings to the main hub to signal that they're still working
Whatever you do, don't put them in a faraday bag to prevent them from doing this. It'd certainly be terrible if some were to do that and avoided being caught...
cool. do more.
Destroying them is great and all, but what about throwing a garbage bag over it and zip-tying it shut? Cheap and probably not gonna get you a vandalism charge.
Because the bag can be removed.
Sure, I’m just saying it’s quick and easy and probably won’t land you in jail, it’ll prevent surveillance for the x-amount of time it’s on, and will take resources to go remove. At which point you can do it again.
Hmm that's true
When I was renting an apt decades ago the landlord had left a hole in the wall, I grabbed one of those cans of expanding foam and oh boy did he curse me with the mess that left after I moved out. I'm sure the bag could contain the same foam. And keep those electronics nice and warm .
Ooh, outfitting a drone with that stuff might be a really interesting way to disable those things, if someone were to do such a thing. But I would imagine that doing so might lead to that kind of foam being heavily restricted. It might be beneficial for people to study the benefits of using multiple substances for that purpose, like spraypaint, that foam, and other materials which would be easy to use. I wonder if water balloons/sandwich bags filled with that stuff might be similarly useful.
Just for scientific consideration, of course. Again, I'm not advocating that people try all of these various things in order to determine which are the most effective at destroying these privacy invasion tools which should not themselves exist and which should be felonies to own or operate.
I wonder if water balloons/sandwich bags filled with that stuff might be similarly useful.
As soon as it leaves the pressurized can it expands and then hardens in less than 30 seconds, so it wouldn't really work in balloons or sandwich bags
But a Google search says it doesn't expand without exposure to moisture?
If it's pumped into water balloons and the water balloons are kept sealed, I wonder if it would still expand.
Hm, interesting. I've never tried the balloon thing to be honest. I guess it normally uses the humidity in the air, because I never had to add water when I used it in the past
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