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[-] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 4 weeks ago

it doesn’t end there!

American Rape of Vietnamese Women was Considered “Standard Operating Procedure”

i’d include a quote here but every sentence in this article is more horrible than the last. i recommend you (the entity reading this reply) read this article if discussion of rape and war do not bother you. towards the end, it details how american media (especially movies) worked to downplay (and even invert!!!) these atrocities.

[-] myszka@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 weeks ago

This is really eye-opening. Didn't know Americans were THIS inhumane during the war in Vietnam.

[-] myszka@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 weeks ago

This is really eye-opening. Didn't know Americans were THIS inhumane during the war in Vietnam.

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[-] Fancy_Gecko@lemmy.ml 76 points 4 weeks ago

most evil empire in history

[-] from_D4rkness@lemmy.world 68 points 4 weeks ago

Germany gets a lot of (well deserved) heat for the nazis, but it is a true testament to the efficacy of propaganda investments that the US does not have a worse reputation. Even hitler wrote about how he was inspired by the US to do the things he did.

I agree with you. The US is, and always has been, a cancer on the planet more malicious than any other.

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[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 22 points 4 weeks ago

Eh.... I don't know if the US has been around long enough to really grab that title. It kinda depends on who you are laying blame to for the vast majority of the genocide against native Americans. Most of the deaths during the great dying in the Americas happened before the concept of America as a country even began.

If you're looking at the amount of people killed and adjusted for the comparative populations, it's probably the Spanish empire. If you are looking at the number of different cultures affected it's probably the British. I would say America wins the most evil modern empire, but history is pretty brutal and America kinda missed the majority of the age of exploration and the colonial era.

[-] frisbird@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 weeks ago

It's the Western European white supremacist Christian patriarchy. That's the empire. They can make up all the fancy names of cities, and states, and draw borders and make believe all they want. It's the same empire.

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[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

Belgium and Spain would like a word.

Seriously, everyone forgets about what Belgium did in the Congo. They really went for quality over quantity with the atrocities there.

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[-] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 67 points 4 weeks ago

English translation: “For services in Song Mi”

[-] anon6789@lemmy.world 34 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Not to "whatabout...." this scene, but the Danish movie "Land of Mine" was very thought provoking for me in a lot of ways.

It follows German POWs, post WWII, forced to clear mines from the beaches. Their country did indeed place the mines, but these people forced to clear them were not the actual people who placed them, certainly didn't call for them to be placed there, and the Danish government knew they were not trained in landmine disposal. Many were killed in the process, and the whole practice was against the Geneva Convention. They were promised to be freed after clearing the beach but were then shipped off to other beaches to continue this dangerous work. The film was made at one of the actual beaches, and a real mine was discovered during filming.

I don't particularly enjoy war movies, but I feel the good ones show us the ways that all our leaders have forced or conned regular people into doing horrible things in the name of their country, but when we look back in hindsight and see it was a damn lie, it still never changes anything. Every country is guilty of it, and photos like the one above or the movie I mention can be good reminders, hopefully before more people get forced into these situations.

Conversely, Joyeux Noël about the WWI Christmas Truce was great, in seeing all sides grasping the pointlessness of the situation they were placed in and uniting as individuals in peace and friendship surrounding their shared values until the leadership on all sides found out what was going on and declared peace was an unacceptable outcome of war and had to stop at once.

Individuals undoubtably are capable of atrocities, but I think it's very seldom they came up with those ideas on their own, as opposed to cowards far away in a room somewhere forcing others to be their pawns in some pointless game nobody else really wanted to play.

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[-] frunch@lemmy.world 33 points 4 weeks ago

Christ, is that a real image? I think I'm just so horrified at the idea that I'd rather chalk it up to ai/trolling 😶

[-] Forsho@sh.itjust.works 47 points 4 weeks ago

Yes it is real and this is just a tip of endless Massacres and war crimes committed by your army in vitenam

What i find interesting is the ability of some you to question and still have doubts about the ugliness and terrorism of the U.S army that you ignore the fact is that this picture is just a normal day activity of the most terrorist country in modern day history.

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

In an age of unprecedented amounts and quality of propaganda i have no qualms about questioning an image for authenticity. I also have no problem seeing the ugliness or terrorism committed, i just think it's important to vet information more than ever these days. I fully believe they were doing what they did there, and the article was helpful in gaining perspective on the situation on the ground there. Absolutely abhorrent.

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[-] woop_woop@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago

Well done on finding another source.

I have no idea what you're talking about for the rest of your post though. It seems perfectly reasonable to question the validity of a random picture on Twitter.

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago

the most terrorist country in modern day history

Or just history. No need for the 'modern day' part.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 36 points 4 weeks ago

it’s real. so are some of the other images. the Us was in vietnam for profit and control, and entered via a lie and stayed longer than “needed” thanks to people like kissinger. fun fact: the US bombed Laos (with whom we were not at war) with more bombs than all nations in ww2 dropped, combined.

funner fact fact: the US has been a terrorist state since its inception, has only had profit in mind, and has never been free.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 4 weeks ago

It's actually rather tame as far as pictures of Statesian war crimes go.

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[-] Malyca@lemmy.zip 29 points 4 weeks ago

The second most moral army on Earth

[-] robotElder2@hexbear.net 25 points 4 weeks ago

After the war every single single Vietnam vet should have been stripped of citizenship and deported back to Vietnam in chains to spend the rest of their lives buck ass naked out in the jungle disarming UXO at gunpoint for 18 hours a day.

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 17 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

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[-] CyberMonkey403@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Oh wow so those shitty myths about Soviets were projection! And here I thought they were just propaganda. Like clockwork

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