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[-] vegafjord@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 minutes ago

it should be dissolved

[-] MaybeNaught@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

Tbf, the system would be broken (in a functional sense) upon destruction. Cart before the horse with these statements, I suppose.

[-] Reborn_Mormon@lemmy.world 0 points 22 minutes ago

Transcend system then rebuild system in your image, as Christ did

[-] nanometer1625 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

IMO the most pressing problem in the USA is that we have "consensus protocols" that can fail to achieve consensus. If the USA government was a software product, these would be considered massive bugs:

  • The presence of both a House of Representatives and a Senate, and both bodies need to approve legislation with a majority in order for the legislation to become law. This is fundamentally broken, because there's no guarantee that both houses will be controlled by the same party. Imagine if a database locked up because it had only 2 replicas, and if they ever became out of sync, all writes would stop, with no way to achieve a majority.
  • The fact that the president can veto legislation. As above, this can result in a complete lockup of the government's basic functionality, since there is no guarantee that Congress and the president are controlled by the same party.
  • The electoral college. The fact that it is capable of installing as president the loser of the election is an obvious and massive flaw.

If we eliminated these bugs, then we would be able to achieve party-wise accountability; At the moment, when the House, Senate, and/or presidency are controlled by different parties, both parties can blame the other for inaction. In reality, the true problem is the fact that the Senate exists and that the President has veto power. If we had 1 democratic body (the House) and no Senate, then the party that controls the House would be directly accountable for its successes and failures, and I would expect American cynicism and apathy about "government not working" to decrease as a result.

[-] i_love_FFT@jlai.lu 3 points 51 minutes ago

Yeah, but these systems also act as corruption-prevention mechanisms.

They're more like fault tolerant computations: if both bodies don't agree on something, then that something must be flawed and should not be applied.

With only one democratic body, it might be faster to pass laws, but they would all be quite flawed because they would lack peer-review from an independent body...

In practice, its the two-party-only system and fptp that screws things up.

[-] Pollo_Jack@lemmy.world 2 points 10 minutes ago

The electoral college is more of a equality-prevention mechanism. One vote in rural america, racist america if you will, is equal to ten in a city.

[-] Juniperus@infosec.pub 1 points 3 hours ago

Alright I like the way you think! Now perhaps let's ahem apply that type of logic to companies? If we fix our corrupt companies they won't be able to corrupt the government any more.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 hours ago

These are more symptoms than the actual problem, that the US is a dictatorship of capital.

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago
[-] A404@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago

I dunno, I think most people are in favor of not dying to climate change

Why on earth do you think that? What behavior indicates this?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

If we could have an actual majority vote without extra layers, vote tampering, and the spoiler effect, then I wouldn't need to make assumptions about what other people want!

If most people actually want fascism, then sorry not sorry.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

How do you think a revolution starts?

[-] HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 3 points 11 hours ago

AI failed because humans doing the same (bad) work were cheaper when AI stopped being heavily subsidized.

Just think about it, a technology that automates work fails because humans are cheaper. System was not designed around the idea of humans being the cheapest part of the whole and it shows heavily. Humans were supposed to be this endlessly growing consumer base that works expensive jobs and can afford goods cheaply produced by automation. This did not happen. Population growth stagnated and reversed in many countries, humans became the cheapest part of economy while their purchasing power dwindled.

No system in history ever was built on such assumptions. Hell, even democracy assumed that average person works only so many hours, and spends considerable time a week on getting informed about political issues. Currently democracy is just herding overworked tired people into the voting booth and asks them to vote on something they had neither time nor energy to get informed on.

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