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[–] 72 points 2 months ago* (17 children)

It's a known phenomenon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_persecution_complex

Though seems to me that persecution narrative must be pushed top-down by a minority, if 96% of the actual people vote "No".

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  • [–] 22 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    It’s seems like a psy-op by the wealthy.

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    not... well. maybe it is. but not directly.

    The messaging is there to keep people from leaving.

    they'll be told things like "that person was rude to you becuase you're a Christian!" or "you lost your job because you were a Christian!" or any of a dozen things that have nothing to do with. (sometimes, in point of fact, they push you to do things that will make people angry at you. like knocking on their door at seven AM on a fucking Sunday. this is, for example, the point of the Mormon's mission... or JW's.)

    along with all this, they'll get you to burn bridges with your support systems; and to annoy everyone around you.

    The whole goal is to keep you from leaving, even though they're incredibly toxic.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (7 children)

    Literally everything organized religion does is a psy-op to manipulate people 😅

    I think it's an interesting discussion to be had, whether it's done by "the wealthy". We have account that Jesus was kinda against the rich. I mean he flipped some tables and everything. And young Christianity also had something going on with the camel and the needle's hole. And we have more paragraphs than just John and Timothy... But boy did they turn that upside down with what we have as of today. Especially in the USA. I think "they" accomplished their goal. Interesting, though, how the establishment (in modern times) often comes with some urge to claim victimhood. And I don't think it's traditionally part of totalitarianism.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    so... Jesus wasn't actually against the rich nearly as much as people make him seem these days.

    The flipping of the tables wasn't that they were doing business or even taking advantage of people. it was that they were doing business inside the temple.

    as for all the "go sell your shit and follow me" stuff... well. yeah. Imagine, if you will Jesus with a cheesy sleazey-car-salesman grin and his hand out. Also notice that he really had a thing for hanging out with rich people.

    none of the disciples were particularly poor. Mathew was a tax collector. James and John were both heirs to a successful fishing business, two of the others were senior employees in that business. he dined with and partied with the rich all the time, too. Joseph himself would have been well off (as a tekton, he wasn't exactly poor. He was the guy that built everyone's homes and such.) (though Mary probably fled from Joseph when he found out she was preggers. details)

    basically, he acted and sounded like every half-baked cult leader you can imagine.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    Their scripture literally tells them that they would be persecuted.

    And they were... for the first four hundred years...

    Not so much anymore, though. Unfortunately they don't view the bible as a historic document, but as the infallible and timeless word of god...

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Yes. Was 380 when Christianity became state religion in the Roman Empire. I believe that was also when they had all these councils to codify what's in the New Testament etc. I remember some notable exceptions from history class, like the Nazis. Some shenanigans between the Catholics and the Protestants, the French Revolution, Communism... But other than that, they've mostly been at the giving end during the 1646 years after that.

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    [–] 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Christians don't get persecuted for being Christians.

    They get persecuted for acting like insufferable assholes. Don't do that and there won't be a problem.

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    [–] 47 points 2 months ago

    lemme guess....

    25 persons voted, including the moron that created this 'poll'.

    (24/25 is exactly 96 percent)

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  • [–] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    A religion that has a building dedicated to it on every street corner does not get to claim they are persecuted.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Yeah, one of the things that made me doubt my religious upbringing was the preacher repeatedly saying that Christians are a persecuted minority to a Sunday crowd of some 3000 people, in a church people nicknamed "Fort God" for its massive size, in a town where "on every street corner" really isn't much of an exaggeration. In hindsight, it was laughably ridiculous.

    Also, the literal military-worship on Sundays near Memorial Day and Veterans Day was a bit jarring even to the young, good-little-Christian me.

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    [–] 19 points 2 months ago*

    They're so persecuted, they're afraid of answering yes on this poll! Incontrovertible evidence of Christian persecution!

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    People who are kind, considerate, and compassionate towards others do get persecuted.

    People who don't tip at Cracker Barrel on a Sunday after church probably should be persecuted.

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    Lizardman's constant (the percent of people who will give a stupid answer in a survey, for fun) is also 4%.

    Ain't nonya bein' persecuted.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The Christians that feel prosecuted are those who bang on your door in order to convert you and get reported for being intrusive and breaking some laws.

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    [–] 8 points 2 months ago*

    You know what persecution is? Having to pay taxes.

    Churches should pay taxes and stop persecuting the rest of us. Churches are everywhere, not paying property taxes and many other benefits that NO other non-profits/charities receive; we all have to pay for their share.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    the yes people are likely far right christians, which arnt really true christians.

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