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People want to get fucked up. Society will find a way and sanction it.
Yeah but it doesn't have to be alcohol like it doesn't have to be heroin. Alcohol is worse than heroin by just about any scientific metric, and yet we just choose to view them very differently because of tradition.
Isn't heroin, like, insanely addictive?
Yes. I haven't gone as far as heroin, however over a decade ago I quit sniffing morphine powder (like that character from that show, Mr Robot I think the name is? Couldn't watch that for long).
As a result of stress from childhood abuse, and bullying, I drank alcohol from a young age. I first remember being drunk at about 5 years old. At 12 I would often have a cap of brandy to start the day, before school. Alcohol provided it's issues, and whilst I cannot drink now for health reasons I could at least stop, go for long periods of time without drinking, and it didn't provide such a hold on me.
The morphine was something else.
When it's sniffed, it has a different effect. There is a strong initial rush of euphoria, as if my brain was on its way to having an orgasm. That feeling subsided into a sort of... Content numbness. Satisfaction to an unnatural degree. The feeling of accomplishment, from the drug, felt more fulfilling than... Anything. It removed desires, because it felt more worth it to just do the drug instead of even sex, because that felt empty compared to how fulfilling the morphine felt.
The withdrawals were an absolute nightmare.
Once I realised I was developing a dangerous problem, I went cold turkey. Sweating from head to toe, and a lot. Constantly shivering, cramping in my gut, throwing up and having to force myself to drink water. Nightmares so incredibly vivid. I felt like I was going to die, and this lasted for almost two full weeks.
Alcohol is dangerous for sure, but if heroin is anything like the morphine I was sniffing... It just isn't comparable in my experience.
Been clean since 2012. That shit is the devil if there ever is one.
Yes, almost as addictive as alcohol even!
I honestly don't know about that. I don't want to fall for drug paranoia propaganda, but there's people who literally take heroin substitutes every day, but I've never heard of anyone addicted to non-alcoholic beer.
Because the heroin substitutes are drugs that also hit the same opioid receptors . . . NA beer literally has no drugs in it at all.
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It is depressing how romanticised and popularised alcohol is for certain effects which dismiss others. The fact that alcohol is so dangerous to everyone, disregards the prior logic which the age gates and the recommended unit amounts made us believe.
Hollywood has drinking scenes multiple times in every movie. Busy day? drink. Out with coworkers? drink. Character in crisis? drink. Character needs to be lovable? drink.
Yeah, and my doctor recently told me about how much worse it is for women.
https://mcpress.mayoclinic.org/women-health/drinking-its-different-for-women/
It causes a lot of problems but also its one of the things that make life worth living
That's terribly sad.
I hope you can find things to live for soon :(
i hope your life gets better
wow.. that's really pathetic.
Doesn't alcohol also just sort of happen whenever wild yeasts are around?
Yeah. Botulism just kinda happens, too.
Don't forget tetanus. And polio
In soil, sure. For it to happen in food requires warm, anaerobic conditions. These are conditions everyone in food prep is taught to avoid and for which restaurants are inspected and graded, with the most egregious offenders even shut down.
In small amounts yes. It takes A LOT of naturally-fermented apples to get drunk.
These threads always bring out the teetotalers. Mind your own business.
Yeah it’s really shocking when a thread about the dangers of alcohol brings out the people decrying the dangers of alcohol.
Not getting killed by a violent drunk or a drunk driver is my business.
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I do until i go to another loved one's funeral, it gets frustrating.
Stop making it sound so cool.
Yet alcohol contributes to millions of deaths globally each year and is linked to cancer, liver disease, unintentional accidents, violence and, importantly, dependence and addiction. Despite this, the disconnect between alcohol’s cultural role and its serious health burden..
yeah, so cool
All movies and TV shows feature drinking scenes...all of them. Lazy film making.
Even Supergirl is a drunk now.
I appreciated the vid lol
Trey Parker and Matt Stone cut through the bullshit.
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