Just in time for them to take physical discs away! Edit: This is only in EU! For now.

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[–] 173 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's almost like Sony doesn't want to have a PlayStation division anymore.

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  • [–] 52 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's odd timing given that microsoft seems to be giving up on Xbox

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The Xbox people have a better grasp of things. Consoles have little reason to exist... and the writing was on the wall when the PS3 stumbled out the gate. Really, in the PS2 era, all those Renderware / id Tech 3 / Unreal 1 games running the same on every platform was a big hint that there was no longer a benefit to having different platforms. Now there's just various badges over x86 PCs and smartphones - and the smartphones are starting to run Steam games.

    None of which is to say that Microsoft has conducted their grand scheme to computer-ify the console market with any degree of finesse, consistency, or follow-through. They're still idiots for setting successful studios on fire, and for refusing to shit or get off the pot vis-a-vis whether there's gonna be an Xbox The Next One.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    I wouldn't be surprised.

    The whole tech industry is very overtly hell bent on pushing through an ai controlled dystopia.

    What good would the current model of gaming be?

    Have a bunch of people work very hard on a game and all that work "loses it's value" after a year or so. (In their eyes, shit's gotta sell).

    When you can have ai just dream/hallucinate up a game and stream that instead? (It's nowhere near that yet, but holy shit would they love it)

    Now you have an endless stream of stuff to sell that costs you zero manpower.

    Now the good peasants go work and can have half an hour of slop per day as a reward. And if they revolt, you just cut them off.

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    [–] 134 points 2 months ago

    Notably, the clause is conspicuously absent from terms governing Mexico, the United States, and several other regions, meaning players there are not currently subject to the policy. By contrast, the provision has been enforceable in the United Kingdom and various European countries for years, though it largely escaped public notice until the recent physical-format debate brought renewed scrutiny to Sony’s digital practices.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Yeah really I have no desire for new stuff. Like, why? Ive never once cared about graphics, even when I was around 8, I remember thinking people caring about graphics was stupid, because its the game that matters. Never have I bought a game because it was "shiny" or because I could see a baseball players eyelash. Who cares. I want a game, not a reality simulator (well, I do enjoy walking/ driving simulators once in a while, but not because of graphics!)

    Now flashy graphics are fine and all but not at the expense of the game.

    Iif I even tried completing every game from 1975 to 1999, I'd have enough play for more than a lifetime of gaming.

    New really isnt that great, for me. Some good indie games here and there, sure.

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    [–] 71 points 2 months ago

    I logged into steam after like 15 years and it still worked.

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  • [–] 60 points 2 months ago (18 children)

    how is that even legal?

    we need better consumer protection for digital purchases.

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    [–] 51 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    What an excellent way to convince aging gamers to just never buy from Sony again.

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  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    i bought portal2 when it came out on ps3.... it also let me set up a steam account through my ps3, because that was going to be the next big thing (this was before ps+ and multiplayer was still free)

    12 years later i got a PC, i downloaded steam.... and when i logged in, there was portal2 waiting for me to download it.

    sony can go fuck themselves

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    [–] 45 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 34 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    My biggest mistake was buying a PS4 instead of jumping to PC a generation earlier than I eventually did.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Sony’s reminding me of their “599 US DOLLARS” era very heavily lately. Gaming has been in such a rough spot lately, it’s a shame.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    The fact that digital everything has been such a clusterfuck of unwashed ass pushed me back to rock climbing. Thanks/go fuck yourself tech conglomerates! I’ve definitely drawn similar associations, Rick

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    I started playing ukulele because i did not feel like spending a years savings on a new gaming pc and nvidia fucked up gforce now. A recorder/flute is like 7 $. But its impossible to play silent.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    It had the curse of being worth more than movies and television, so it attracted every "entertainment" investor around, demanding short term profits like movies do. Now we have giant corporations thinking they can even remotely understand what a creative medium is, and then being shocked when we don't buy their latest "written by HR"/microtransaction bullshit. Meanwhile Indie is doing great! Surprise, creative people make good creative products.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I haven't logged in since my PS3 died a couple years ago.

    Tried to log in to their website with my saved password. It said the password was wrong. I reset my password, entered the same one that I previously used, fully expecting it to give the frustrating answer "Previous passwords can't be re-used." But no, it let me use it! Weird.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago

    So some password systems prepend the hash algorithm to your password hash, that way you can tell if the user has migrated to the new algorithm or not when you change your hashing scheme.

    Odds are after the PSN breach they changed the algorithm and have since removed the code to check the old algorithm. So it just sees the hash didn’t match with the new algorithm even though the password is the same.

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    [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    There are doing a speed run no one wants.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)
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    [–] 18 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    I've been a hardcore PlayStation guy since I was about 9 when I got my first console the PS1.

    Crash team racing is better than Mario Kart 64

    Spyro the Dragon is the best 3D platformer of the late 90s.

    I've had a PS2.. That still works 22 years later.

    I was in the great wars of PS2 vs XBOX.

    I like Halo 1 and 2, I like Killzone 1, 2 and 3.

    I was there at the beginning.

    I was there when Sony moved their PlayStation HQ from Japan to America.

    I was there when the quality of good JRPGs and adventure games plummeted so we could be fed a new call of duty and FIFA every year.

    These days I'm PC, PS5 and switch. I will not be buying a PS6 or a Switch 2.

    It should be mentioned that.. I'd rather throw myself down a cliff than buy an Xbox.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago* (6 children)

    It's not just them. I accidentally ended up in prison for 5 years and lost my Google account, and because I had 2FA set up with email and the phone number I had at the time on pretty much everything that means I also lost my steam account and pretty much every single digital account I had. Thousands of games on different storefronts.

    Ironically the only single place that helped me recover my account was the kind folks at Roberts Space Industries. I was an initial backer... Maybe one day the game will be done.

    Everything else I pirate now. If you don't own it physically, you don't own it.

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    [–] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    My decade old Sony boycott looks more & more prescient every week.

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    [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    Seems illegal.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ill be sure to tell my siblings to sign into my account every 3 years. gee thanks sony. whats the fucking point of this

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Huh. That's actually a little disappointing. I have a couple of exclusives on there that I would prefer not to lose. But I also no longer own any modern PlayStation consoles, nor am I likely to in the future. So trying to decide if this is going to be the thing that makes me leave Sony for good, or if I should just make a little effort to login from time to time.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's updates like this that make me wish for a 'git diff' of those changes.

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    [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    Wow this seems like a gross overstep of boundaries . Fuckin, oh well i guess

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Note that technically the agreement says that Sony reserves the right to delete the account after 36 months, not that they'll actually do it. It might "just" be a stupid bit of legalese to cover Sony's ass in case they're required to delete older data.

    Of course the idea is worrying nonetheless.

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    [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

    This is for UK and EU due to GDPR that requires companies delete all user data for inactive accounts. It's a unintended consequences of the law and other gaming companies including Xbox have similar clauses.

    https://playfront.de/en/psn-kontoloeschung-sony-loescht-inaktive-accounts-asutomatisch-nach-3-jahren/

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    "How do we squander 3 decades of consumer goodwill in a week and a half?" Seriously wtf are you doing Sony

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    [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    This is sad just because of the old names disappearing. A friend of mine killed themselves back in 2017, but we played a few games on ps4 together online back in the day. So I still scroll down to look at that old gamer tag every now and then. Its sad to think of that going away.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Is this an attempt to temporarily artifically inflate unique account activity metrics for self-congratulation and shareholder ego stroking?

    (This month X millions players logged in to play games, which is a significant increase from before!)

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