Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
I was at the Plaza Hotel in New York a while back. One of the most expensive and storied places in the world, and pretty much every guest I saw had brought their clothes at The Gap.
Why would you dress up for a hotel?
When traveling "looking fancy" is the last thing I care about.
Nobody dresses fancy anymore.
Thank you for proving my point
If you expect them to dress up for no reason, sure.
Go where people actually have a reason to care and you'll find them...
It is expected to dress up for high end dining…. Even when traveling. It’s not “no reason”
That’s the point OP is making. Nobody is dressing up.
Last time I went to a nice restaurant, my wife and I were the only ones dressed nicely.
She wore a nice dress, I wore a shirt & tie; the entire rest of the restaurant was enjoying $75 entrees in designer athlesiure outfits.
Only 75 dollars? Where did you go? Olive Garden?
I think ties have fallen out of fashion. At least in business dress. Button up shirt, nice slacks and a sport coat, all tailored. You have to specify black tie if you want people in fancy dress.
I would dress fancy if the world were worthy of it.
But why would you dress fancy for a hotel? Most of the time it's just less comfortable than jeans and a t-shirt. Not to mention the cost of dressing fancy.
The Plaza is more than a place to crash. There is the Palm Court and a number of bougee things going on there. I would argue that more that half of the folks using those hotel amenities are not staying the night. They’re there for special occasions.
I used to occasionally go to nightclubs in LA with some older guys that insisted on wearing nice, fitted suits. They actually bought me one when I first moved out there. If I was in a nightclub in my 20's, it was usually cause I was working. So I don't really have much to compare the experience to. But I'd say they were attention-getting - not necessarily in a good way. One dude tried to start a fight with me. And a girl I texted afterward was surprised to discover that I was, in fact, quite poor. That was a while ago. I have plenty of suits now. I never wear them. I guess nobody dresses fancy anymore.
I was at a funeral recently where about 1 in 10 people were wearing cargo shorts or jeans, a graphic tee or a polo shirt, and sneakers.
Not that I think we should go back to dressing in powdered wigs and hose but I think there is room for clothing choices to mark an occasion
Depends on context. For my grandmother, I wore a black dress. For my boyfriend, a bunch of us wore replicas of his favorite tshirt.
the family of the deceased (35, sudden heart failure from undiagnosed blood pressure condition) were in suits. It was at a crematorium with a flavor of traditional Vietnamese traditions. No dress code was specified.
I do not like NYC “dress code”. I went to a cocktail bar and they asked me to keep my jacket on because I had a t shirt. The cocktails were only $15-17. Not even fancy! Is my money worth less that I’m wearing jeans or a tshirt?
This is why I love Seattle. Everywhere allows tshirts and jeans no matter how fancy. I’m comfy and spending money.
$15.00 for a cocktail??
I'm glad I don't drink...
That's not even horrifically expensive in most cities. I've seen people pay $20/shot at some bars.
"Only 15-17$" Does everyone there has a 6 figure income or how can this bar survive lol
My personal theory is that it is a symptom of societal decay. People would dress nicely and look good when going out, so others would see and be impressed or attracted.
Now i have literally not worn anything else but different sweatpants for the last year or so, because i could not care less what other random passerbys perceive me as, since i am decidedly not interested in them either.
Nobody cares about real life impressions any more because the people that matter to them are in their phone. Friends and family are not necessarily in the same location as you, and romantic options are for the most part also in your phone now. Why brother looking good when potential partners are expected to judge you by your social media presence anyway and i'm just here for groceries.
symptom of societal decay.
Nah. We just realized that the people wearing suits all the time are villainous cunts. #finance
I see it almost the opposite way. A lot of what you’re describing is exactly why I don’t put much value in dressing fancy or performing “respectability” for strangers.
Wearing a nice suit to the lodge once a week doesn’t make someone a good person. Plenty of people can dress up, look impressive in public, shake hands, say the right things, and then go home and be cruel, abusive, miserable, or drunk. I saw enough of that growing up to lose any belief that polished appearances are proof of character.
So when people stop treating suits, fancy clothes, and public image as moral signals, I don’t see that as societal decay. In some ways, I see it as growth. People are realizing that looking respectable and being respectable are not the same thing.
If anything, when I see someone using appearance, tradition, or status as a mask for behavior I don’t respect, it makes me want to be the opposite of what they stand for.
I'm glad that pretending to be fancy is falling out of fashion. It's extremely uncomfortable (save me the speech about how I need a well fitting suit or whatever, no thanks) and it's expensive (very much in conflict with your claim below that it's cheap to dress up. I'm not sure how you could possibly believe that). As someone who routinely dresses comfortably af, nothing was lost when people stopped dressing up randomly such as on airplanes. Being comfortable is very important to some people, especially those on the spectrum. I've got nothing to prove to people by being uncomfortable. I'll keep wearing gym shorts on a plane and I literally feel for people wearing suits as I know how uncomfortable every aspect of it is.
But there's quite an array of options between "fancy" and "t-shirt tucked into jean shorts."
It's apparently a local custom in Texas to go to a wedding dressed in blue jeans, a white shirt, your boots and whatever cowboy hat you wear. Meanwhile everyone else who doesn't know what fucking a cow feels like is wearing at least a tie.
Fancy is in the eye of the beholder though. In some places a polo shirt is fancy, in other places a western shirt. I think you want people wearing white button up shirts, slacks and nice dresses, but for some people it might be something completely different.
Why do 'Murican "car guys" make owning a car (well, the finance company really owns it) their whole personality?
It's a car
Like dickheads who wear Harley clothing to advertise the fact that they're afraid of going around corners and desperately need attention
Not nearly as bad as the lady who briefly worked in my office. She had a ton of Harley-Davidson accessories. Literally the first thing she told us was that she and her husband love the brand and riding motorcycles. I asked how many Harleys they had. The answer? Zero, but they hoped to buy one someday.
They made "hoping to own something" their whole personality.
Fun fact, for decades Harley has made more selling their clothes to wannabes than selling their shit bikes to dentists with a midlife crisis
To be fair, it's not just an American thing. Plenty of beemer bros in Europe.
That's why I prefer frigates.
Im not leaving bed for anything less than a destroyer. If you want me to dress fancy, dust off a battleship.
And that joke is why your girlfriend is now pregnant
One thing that always surprises me in the US is the sneaker obsession. Especially NY. I'll see well dressed people in a suit and then goofy ass sneakers. Looks awful.
"dress shoes" feel awful.
A well made pair of leather dress shoes will eventually mold themselves to your feet. It's a different feeling to a sneaker, not fabric and foam rubber obv, but they can be super comfy. I've even got a pair of Frye boots I've had for like 20 years that feel tight when you first pull them on but then they're just like a second skin, you forget they're even there
Oh come on, they're Balenciaga!
Oh my god, I actually laughed out loud at this lol
All of western history people cared about how they look.
Now people just go out wearing some advertisement for some stupid company.
Self respect and respect for the community is gone.
Being concerned about what strangers think of you & your attire is the opposite of self-respect.
Oh damn, we Klaraposting around here? Based
@ivanafterall Wait, so are they the baby, or are they not the baby?
Well I'll tell you one thing, he's not the mama that's for sure.
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