Aww, did the serial copyright violator get copyright violated?

"They've stolen our rightfully stolen data!", said the spokesman.

Anthropic, I mean this with the upmost sincerity:

No one gives a fuck.

If your competitor can put out a model that functions really similarly to yours for $2 less per month, and your entire userbase can just leave and move to them... explain to me why investors would want to pump hundreds of billions into your business to be 'first to market'? That's a really dumb thing to admit for Anthropic.

Who is 'first to 100 million users' is utterly irrelevant under a business model where your sole value is Intellectual Property (IP) and that IP can be "illicitly extracted" by a clever competitor without ever hacking into your nextwork or doing anything explicitly illegal.

I've had to explain this to a lot of people who seem to think Anthropic/OpenAI are incredibly valuable companies because "they'll make money long-term so long as they keep being pumped full of it investment cash to be the first to earn a big userbase", but that just doesn't make sense. OpenAI owns no datacenters...zero. Theyre 100% IP. Anthropic "is building" some datacenters, but they exist on paper only so far, so they're also presently 100% IP.

Can this obvious scam just collapse already so I can upgrade my PC without a personal loan?

Plagiarism machine plagiarizes plagiarism machine. Film at 11.

Lol. Stupid thieving fucks whine that their stolen data gets copied?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Alibaba picking up Anthropic's fair use strategy?

Edit: is there an argument for letting the US ruin its economy and environment to train all these models and then just swooping in before it turns into a mild madmaxian hellscape to distill and/or extract the knowledge? Beats having to do this on your own, doesn't it?

Let me pull out the world's tiniest open source violin

Laws for thee

You know what they say, no honor among thieves.

"They can't just help themselves to all the data they can get their hands on because they feel entitled to it for training! Wait..."

Oh, thanks for letting me know. I am now going to subscribe to Alibaba Cloud and cancel my Anthropic subscription

It was not clear how exactly they extracted capabilities..using the service and making prompts?! If it was just that, that's bullshit. AI companies have no moat..besides trillion dollar investments.

No honor among thieves.

Well then Alibaba needs to get better at it cause the Qwen models have kinda sucked in my experience.

Chinese company caught brazenly copying

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It's literally in the name. Open fucking sesame 🤣.

I'm still on the side of treating AI development with more caution than less. So depending where you live this could be a very good thing or a very bad thing in the long haul.

Didn't they stole also from Alibaba? I read somewhere that if you asked in Chinese to Claude opus 4.8 which model was using the api (the web service injects an hidden prompt with bias), it replied it was based on Alibaba qwen 3.6

They have pretty much lost already. The US will probably try to fight in some way, but they have a very little moat. Even if they actually "stole", it's not as if that Anthropic had the moral high ground here.

Some chinese models like GLM 5.2, Kimi K2.7 Mimo V2.5, Deepseek V4 Pro and Minimax 3 cost close to nothing and have wild usage limits if you subscribe.

You can also run these Chinese models on European infrastructure through Cortecs.ai or similar. And you have actually have privacy! Privacy + Cheap vs Expensive and slightly better.

Opus 4.6 is almost 5€ in and 24€ out. Sonnet 4.6 is 3€ in and 15€ out. Minimax 3 is 0,3€ in and 1,7€ out.

All frontier models are so good that the differenciator going forward is going to be price. The models keep improving, but there is a clear trend of diminishing returns.