Big office HVAC is painful to work out. Stack Effect makes temps harder to hit in certain floors. Some suites will put more people in a room than there is cooling capacity, exterior window/shell heating and floor to ceiling windows turns certain walls into giant radiators. If you let people set their own temps, they end up starving other parts of the loop.

Too cold is always better than too hot. Period.

Get a hot tea. Put on a sweater. Put on a fucking blanket, I don't care. You can fix being cold. You're just whining.

I can't strip down to my underwear and dunk myself into a cool water bath at work. It's frowned upon.

I don't complaint about the AC in the office, I just shiver quietly under a blanket.

Why not both? Lots of places set the climate control to insanely low values, which is uncomfortable, promotes respiratory diseases und wastes energy.

I have strong reactions to cold. My hands and feet won't warm back up and begin to sting and ache. My back, neck, shoulders, and jaw clench and tighten to the point that it becomes painful. Once I get properly cold, it doesn't matter how many pairs of socks I wear or if I have extra sweaters, the pain continues until I can either take a hot shower/bath to warm back up. I've been like this since I was a kid.

I live in the south of the US currently, and summers here are hot and humid, fairly brutal at times. I fully recognize that it gets very uncomfortable outside during the summer. I don't, personally, think that it means we need to keep the AC at full blast on its lowest setting all day long like my coworkers do. But I'm definitely in the minority and so summers are painful for me. I usually take several walks around the block to try and warm up throughout the day. If the pain gets bad enough, I'll use a small space heater or a heating pad to relieve the pain until I can get home.

I honestly miss living in Madrid where AC was not the general rule and, though hot at times, I rarely got the cold tension shivers that I get all the time here in the South. On the other hand, my partner and I save so much money on utilities in the summer compared to my friends and coworkers cause we use the AC sparingly. So benefits and drawbacks I guess. Crazy how different we all are!

The people having to work outside hearing both sides complain:

._.

Seems like a no-brainer. You can put on any amount of clothing if the office is too cold, but there's only so much you can take off if it's too hot. Even on casual Friday - found that out the hard way.

I got annoyed the other day at work. I work in the offices of a factory. It's 35 Celsius and a lot of hard working people are working next to large ovens and suffering from high heat. A couple of people on the office Teams channel started with comments like "given the temperature we will be organising some cold drinks and ice creams for the office staff"

I would like to see those people try and spend a day on the production lines in this heat.

nothing compares to working in 112°F under a blazing sun with 75% humidity, zero cloud cover and zero wind.

did I mention you're doing this for 10-12 hours a day while performing complex geometry and handling tools that can cut off your fingers, arms, or legs?

all while the boss is driving site to site in a blast freezer on wheels bitching about why it takes too god damn long to put up some walls or sheet the walls/roof.

sometimes I miss it, most the time I want to forget it.

Why is it difficult to get it? It’s inconvenient for them. Do you think people need to consult everyone else in the world and make sure that their own personal problem is the worst ever experienced by any human, before being allowed to feel uncomfortable?

American or Celicus?

I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we'd get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they'd try anyway.

In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.

Me in my 93°F warehouse in the summer, which is also my 22°warehouse in the winter, for 12 hours a day

It also depends on individual people. I’m freezing below 76F 24C, my best friend starts sweating if it gets above 68F 20C. His house is set at 66F 19C, and if I go over, I know I have to bring a jacket, and if he comes over to my house he brings a sweat rag.

Big pet peeve of mine. If you think it's chilly you can put on some clothes, if I run hot and think it's hot HR frowns upon me removing my clothes.

Oh my goodness mild weather! How will you survive???