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[–] 156 points 2 months ago (6 children)

It’s hilarious how Musk is the wealthiest with multiple businesses that are actively failing and cannot make a solid case for their valuation without going into fantasy scenarios.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Which also means that his wealth valuation is a house of cards, he cant collect on the fake value without crashing it

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  • [–] 56 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    But he can take out massive loans on that valuation.

    And that money can be used however he wants.

    Also, the recent IPO was him collecting money from a lot of people, and since he got exempted into a few indexes, people's retirement money is now tied to Musky scams.

    This means that if Musky does decide to cash out and crash the economy, he'll have an instant bailout.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Be careful though, suggesting that Starship might never fly, or Full Self Driving might never drive, or that data centers in orbit are unlikely to scale is dangerous on the Internet.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Starship flying means nothing when nobody is using Grok which wastes more money than Starship capsule make.

    Full self driving is only 1 decade late. Tesla is already behind technologically and their quality is still pathetic.

    Data centers in orbit will be orders of magnitude more expensive and complex than data centers on earth. Data centers on earth are having tons of trouble being built because the costs and materials needed are extreme.

    Also, Elon Musk is a Nazi that really wanted to be invited to the Epstein pedophile parties.

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  • [–] 87 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    So now Musk is richer than the next four richest combined?

    I think this is getting a little out of control.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    All billionaires should be stripped of their wealth over 999 million and given to the rest of the world

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    The five wealthiest people who show up on the lists.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago

    I love how Musks conpanies keep losing money yet somehow the stupid fake value just keeps growing.

    I hate speculative capitalism so much

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    If we all just collectively decided to eat the top one every week, the problem would just sort itself out after a month or so.

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    [–] 19 points 2 months ago (10 children)
  • [–] [S] 7 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    How? I don't see them stopping until the supply lines collapse.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It’s ridiculous that they could give away $1bn/yr in charity projects and they’d still be billionaires when they’ll finally die

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Not really because this isn't real money. Especially in Elons case it's all in pumped up stocks that he could never sell without crashing the price. Not that this is making anything better and the current stock market is just another symptom of the death spiral we are currently in.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    It's going to continue to accelerate to a kind of feudalism where they own everything. Democracy or even capitalism itself can't survive this.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Capitalism is this. This was always the logical conclusion when wealth and success were so intrinsically linked.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

    Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but trillionaires should be forced to transition into billionaires, and billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago

    Yup. Ben Norton did a good piece on this topic a few days ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj-hd3l4dSo

    The graph (iirc about half way through maybe), with his added coloured blocks for the different eras lends some superb clarity to what's going on, the political philosophy shifting phases of accelerated worsening, and how bad it is, as in how much worse it is contrast to the worst time in history...

    What we have now, makes the guilded age look like some kind of egalitarian paradi~~ well, maybe not paradise, but more egalitarian... much less egregious than would have been seen in the keynesian phase. How little they knew, of how much worse it could get, and was going to get. Pesky marketing, in rebranding same old corporate fascism as "neo-liberalism". Many likely not bothering with the term neo-feudalism, preferring the delusion there's anything "liberal" still going on. As if that limp thing were even enough to do any more than pretence on slowing down the consolidation of wealth and power even if it were what it's best definitions and ideals pronounce.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 months ago

    This is a disaster awaiting to happen. We should prepare our communities for when SHTF

    https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/71026299

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    So did Musk win? Is he done now?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    They will stop once we have eaten a few of them.

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    [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    And the average person is not even a pixel.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    If they were going to stop on their own they would have by now

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