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[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 0 points 16 minutes ago

It had been an issue for a long time before the civil war. Suddenly when the south started trying to industrialize it became the biggest reason. These are things you can find out in the boring history books. So sure it was the given reason and it was a good reason to be sure but it wouldn't have happened without other issues. Why do you think the north let them create The Jim Crow Laws? The laws that allowed the virtual continuation of slavery up in to the twentieth century. The root cause which is still causing all kinds of trouble today as we fall toward fascism.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 1 points 14 minutes ago

Suddenly when the south started trying to industrialize it became the biggest reason.

Fucking what.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 0 points 4 minutes ago

I'm saying the north made slavery their battle call only after other factors motivated them. The proof they didn't give two shits about black folk were the jim crow laws they allowed the southern states to adopt during reconstruction.

[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago
[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 10 points 6 hours ago

"Economic factors"

It's always an interesting question when you raise the issue of what the South's entire economy was dependent on.

[-] Bristlecone@lemmy.world 2 points 59 minutes ago

Economic factors is the number one reason given for violating civil rights

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

I don't get it. Is that not the most common reason given?

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 7 points 6 hours ago

Unfortunately, many claim nonsense like "It was about states' rights!"

[-] rustbuckett@programming.dev 26 points 11 hours ago

"The Civil War was about states' rights!"

Yes. States' rights to own slaves.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 15 points 10 hours ago

Not even that. The first paragraph of each letter of secession say unequivocally that it's about slavery. Most don't even mention states rights.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

You can argue that it was set off when the Northern states passed laws that freed any slaves who set foot there and the Southern states demanded that the laws be abolished and all states be required to enforce slavery. They didn't get their way so they decided to throw a tantrum.

Of course even with that slavery remains the lynchpin of the whole thing.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

The southern states really wanted to have some kind of heritage so they chose being losers. Truth.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 7 points 10 hours ago

They had so many options, and still they went with being racist losers. Smh.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 hours ago

Texas was created for slavery.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

West Virginia isn't really thought of as being the nicest of states, but they were the only state created explicitly to combat slavery - so that's pretty cool.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Oklahoma has its panhandle due to slavery. It used to be part of Texas but Texas gave it up rather then give up slavery.

[-] sik0fewl@piefed.ca 3 points 8 hours ago

They had two civil wars over it. First when México outlawed it and again when the USA did.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

The Civil War was about capitalism. The ability for capitalists to keep their labour costs down, way down.

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Oh, say what is it called when someone is forced to work against their will for no money? I know there's a word for it...

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Slavery, which can and is employed in capitalist systems when there's opportunity to do so.

[-] PugJesus@piefed.social 3 points 9 hours ago

The Southern Aristocracy was very much operating on a pre-capitalist economy, with a system of pseudo-feudalism predominating in the slave economy. If the US Civil War was about capitalism, the northern industrialists, who benefitted from the Southern feudal economy keeping costs low, would have supported the South's war for slavery, not the North's attempts to end it.

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