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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 66 points 2 months ago (3 children)

This is a subtly good thing for the fediverse, assuming they are able to draw people away from Reddit. Divide and conquer.

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[–] dil@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Once ppl are comfortable using one alternative they'll feel comfortable using others

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[–] HobbitFoot 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Or they'll just stick with what they got.

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[–] stephen01king@piefed.zip 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

It's usually the first migration that people are most resistant to. The 2nd or 3rd time is a lot easier.

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[–] Flagstaff@programming.dev 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, there's a major activation energy barrier for the first time. For example, for me moving to Linux, Oracle VirtualBox was absolutely instrumental in helping me feel more comfortable. Reddit itself was also weird at first and off-putting until I simply tried magnifying the font size; back then, we only had what-is-now-Old Reddit, which was a pain to navigate at 100% size until I got used to it. Anyway, hopefully this Bluesky development will finally break X's might, even if it's not that much better of an alternative... and then gradually grow our own numbers here on Lemmy.

NGL, I rotate among at least 4 accounts across different instances here lol. It was originally out of accident because of my misunderstanding back then of how the Fediverse works, but now I just randomly use them as a simultaneous, illusory boost to Lemmy's activity as well as my own pseudo-privacy lol. I like to think that it helps overall...

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[–] joyjoy@piefed.social 6 points 2 months ago* (1 child)

Like they'd ever use ActivityPub instead of their own ATProtocol.

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[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 14 points 2 months ago (1 child)

That's not what I mean. It's breaking up the centralization and Reddit's hegemony in general that's good for smaller platforms like ours

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[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Its not breaking up centralization. It's just trying to get the centralization in a new set of hands.

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[–] Grostleton@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

Lemmy think it over and I'll get back to ya.

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[–] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago

PieFed and Mbin are also perfectly good.

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[–] IllNess@infosec.pub 63 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Running out of ideas and the flow of users are slowing down.

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The place quickly turned into a silo of hand grenade throwing echo chambers. Some hilarious takes by people who have completely lost touch of reality.

If I said this in Bluesky they would just assume I was talking about Truth Social.

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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 48 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Sounds a bit like Lemmy lol

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 22 points 2 months ago

This style of posting lends itself to having "hot takes" get upvoted and actual discussions have middling success.

At least with us, you can chose the tech and put it up yourself. Like right now you are using slrpnk.net and im using piefed.social on a lemmy.world server. Without any issues. We (the collective WE) made this happen without huge billionaires having a strangle hold on the way we interact. Its not perfect, but its better than a LOT of the alternatives.

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[–] chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think to whatever degree innate tribalism of humans play roles in internet communities, federated servers is still the best way to reflect the good and hinder the bad. Migratory identity would take activity pub a long way in making federation better, but even without it activity pub shows bluesky to be a monolithic platform with a federated coat of paint.

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[–] Stern@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I keep seeing the echo chamber thing but at this point most social media sites are. Bluesky is just a left leaning one, which is the only thing that really sets it apart.

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[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 7 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

I keep seeing the echo chamber thing but at this point most social media sites are. Bluesky is just a left leaning one, which is the only thing that really sets it apart.

I mean honestly I think left leaning is basically being neutral and accepting scientific consensus. To me the non federated part of bluesky is kind of what makes me consider it a time bomb. Even if it were good now, we already know one owner switch, hostile takeover, threats from the government etc... can flip a network around faster than you can blink. It's why I literally see federation as the only way forward for the internet, and find it so ridiculous that everyone bolted to bluesky to escape twitters crash instead of mastadon. It's the same key problem. it can go down in moments.

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yup, pretty much. Honestly I'm not even sure I would join a social media platform where I would have to read the thoughts of uneducated, unfiltered morons who probably should be sterile and cut off from the internet.

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[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

One time on Bluesky I made unfortunate contact with a psycho that genuinely believed bigotry could be a good thing “if applied correctly.” It’s basically liberal MAGA over there

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[–] _fryerDan@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

yep, im there just to scream into the void without having to actually engage with maga

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 45 points 2 months ago

If you think corporate owned social media will ever be anything but a constant downhill ride, I got a bridge to sell ya.

[–] M33@piefed.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Let’s cut the bullshit and start a $3.99 subscription already

We all know this is how it will end

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago

I mean, it could just get sold to a massive advertising tracking and data pushing company. Or at this rate the FCC will find some BS statute to accuse it for and find a way to give it to Musk or Elison.

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[–] philanthropicoctopus 29 points 2 months ago

I'm ok with Lemmy, thanks

[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I do like the idea of more competition to reddit here but we'll see how well it does. I know bluesky is considered like fauxfediverse but it's better than nothing as far as mainstream apps go.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

The only reason it is currently better is that it is comparatively smaller than the mainstream apps. The more successful and mainstream it becomes the more it with enshittify.

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[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Well it also has the benefit of not being run by Elon Musk.

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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Anyone who expects BlueSky to go down a different road than Twitter probably has stock.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Bring sold to a narcissistic Nazi for 44 billion?

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[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 months ago

Lol fuck bluesky, they intentionally suppressed epstein as a trending topic when it was picking up steam. Like, they disabled the tag and cleared whole feeds.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Bluesky died pretty fast. They gave up. I have an account there but at this point is more out of spite

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[–] spacegoat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I get why there was a niche for Bluesky after X was purchased by a Nazi, but the Twitter UI/community/content was always trash to begin with. It wasn’t worth replacing. It’s the TikTok of text-based social media.

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[–] user_name@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Really? I find it a lot more active than lemmy

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I should clarify. It’s not dead as in empty, it’s dead as in the feel for the whole thing changed to corporate BS.

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[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child)

It was VC funded and built by the same guy who built Twitter, what you expect?

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[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

woof. Why can’t platforms just be themselves.

Also, Twitter tried this under Elon and recently changed their minds after, I assume, it didn’t work out like they had hoped?

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 months ago

Can't enshittify something that's shit from the start.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 child)

I would like to be able to navigate up a comment chain. Sometimes, people will reply to an old comment I've made and I can't figure out which one it was. Is this some quirk of twitter that got brought over to bsky?

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

I'd say it's by design. It's not meant to facilitate discussion. It's meant for short zingers to be shared.

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

With the dumb characters limit?

[–] morto@piefed.social 17 points 2 months ago (1 child)

Character limit is a clever strategy to make users s

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago

Since Lemmy and bluesky are both open and federated networks, it should be possible to bridge these.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I just want them to take a few minutes and make an iPad app because the default app running on iPad sucks shit.

[–] alexquiniou@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 months ago

Laught in Lemmy.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 3 points 2 months ago*

I'm not sure about that implementation, but this certainly sounds clever. Especially if they can roll it out before Facebook manages to do the same thing.

Now whether this will be used for scraping AI data, or whether it will be a privacy disaster in the long run, remains to be seen.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.