This post is not related to this community (you linked to a post from the other 196 (the one with letters, not digits)).
This discussion belongs on PTB; please continue it there.
Uhm it actually is related to this community because I'm asking y'all to help other 196 communities... Go ahead be hostile
Yeah, a great many trans folk (particularly trans women) are very much engaged in a war of survival. Jk Rowling is essentially an enemy propagandist with enough money to buy hormones for all the out trans people in Europe and north America for 10 years.
Whether or not it's mentally healthy is beside the point. She's a fucking children's author with more money than god who uses her obscene wealth to bully one of the most marginalised groups of people and encourage their persecution. I would not be surprised if her vitriol has directly lead to a few suicides or murders.
So yeah, wanting her to end her own life is perfectly reasonable and understandable.
"public figures" is doing some heavy lifting for JK Rowling, a very shitty human being. You aren't winning any favors going to bat for a hateful billionaire.
Many lemmy instances are very queer friendly and you'll be shocked to find that that community especially does not like her. If you don't understand why, try to learn. I promise you it isn't for no reason.
Being a "shitty" or perhaps flawed human being is the baseline. It is good that you at least recognize her humanity. Can you not also recognize that no human deserves death for the words that they say, no matter how flawed they or their words are? Can we not agree that it is not in anyone's benefit to have hatred and bloodlust in their heart?
If she doesn't recognize a trans person's humanity, why should they recognize hers?
So you not understand the term public figure?
I do. You intentionally made it vague to garner more sympathy. I'm highlighting that fact
No public figure is descriptive term. It means someone that is very well known or makes public appearances. Also I said jk Rowling by name so I narrowed it down to a singular person so idk how that's vague.
Go ahead keep making excuses. I doubt they'll ever get the results you want
You said "Rowling Stan". I probably should have picked up on it, but it took me looking back at the post to figure that out. That point is less relevant.
I'm actually happy you admitted you small mistake. It makes me feel like you can adapt and grow as a person. 🙂
I actually like seeing change in people.
Admitting fault isn't growth if it's something regularly practiced. I stand by the rest of the sentiment.
That's actually a healthy mindset and I agree.
I just have actual hope for you given how everyone else is on a war path over an admittedly small issue.
I actually don't care too much about celebrating death threats. It really is about their mental health and trying to pursue more positive and productive routes
The online trans community is one of the most toxic there is, and it's well and thriving, don't expect them to ever touch rational discourse, that's not allowed in their little club.
Nah trans community is fine this is probably more lemmy community thing
Great that you bring it up. I just joined Lemmy because I thought it would be less polarized and normalizing of violence than reddit. If this is indeed as bad as you say, I will look elsewhere.
The point of Lemmy is that here you can drop one instance because of its rules and join another instance without having to lose your communities
OP was banned by one instance and telling us about it from another instance connected to basically the same people. Single instances are powerless, they can't silence you effectively here.
Hmm. That is interesting. So mods are essentially far less powerful on Lemmy?
Yes, especially since you can have multiple copies of the same community on different instances. If someone doesn’t like how I run !nwsl@lemmy.world , there’s nothing I can do to stop them from creating an NWSL community on sh.itjust.works or sopuli.xyz or one of a million other instances and running it however they want. The fediverse is designed so that there is no central authority that can stop you from outputting whatever you want; there are only tools to prevent that output from reaching a given user, community or instance.
I'm not sure if "mods" are the ones managing communities, while instances are managed by "admins" or similar.
On reddit, sub mods can ban you from their sub, and reddit itself is the single instance with its own guidelines which can get you banned from the whole platform, with the possibility that in the future we'll need identification to login, so creating multiple accounts might even become something of the past
Lemmy is a protocol, every instance should be seen as its own small reddit, which can behave like reddit, however all these reddits are connected together so even if one provider manages to ban you and your multiple accounts on that instance, it has no legal responsibility on your activity on other instances. There is no central Lemmy authority that could be legally compelled by the laws of one country to have specific moderation policies.
If somebody's behaviour is terrible, like idk fascist propaganda, they will be banned by every instance, except those with inactive moderation or fascist admin/moderators. In this case, other instances can (topically collectively) decide to sever the federation to those instances. Thus, a general ban on individuals is possible, but only by a collective effort of people who have otherwise no legal obligation to each others
i think you could enjoy lemmy. just have to do the more nieche stuff.
idk about polarized is the right term, but the people that get banned on reddit do come to lemmy and you can see why they got banned on Reddit, but if you well adjusted enought they probably leave you alone
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