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submitted 14 hours ago by marc4267@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

I've realized I'm a very atypical person: talking to coworkers in my age range today I realized they have a better financial situation than mine: they are married, some with children, own their own condos, houses, or are paying a mortgage, but can still live a normal life, own a car, some even have the luxury of not having to work 40 hours a week, but 32 because they don't need to work more, house already paid, family and life objectives achieved.

Me: I'm 43, I don't own but rent, meaning I pay for something I'm never going to own. The last 2 years I've been saving like crazy because I'm afraid of not having enough money for retirement, and because in my past I did so much stupid shit, meaning I wasted so many years not doing anything of use.

I have around 100K in the bank, I know I should invest but I'm also scared of losing that money and I don't know if I should use that money as a down payment for a house.

My father owns 3 houses and I envy him. I've been thinking about asking him to sell one of the houses and give me the proceeds so I can buy my own place because some of my coworkers did that and could finance their own home. When my father went to study to another state my grandfather bought him a house there so he wouldn't have to rent. When he moved back to home state he sold and invested the money to buy a new house there. He had way easier than me. It's not fair. I feel... unloved?

I guess this makes me an entitled ass but I feel so... lost?

To summarize, I feel like a loser because I'm old, I'm behind most of my coworkers my age, I'm a very individualistic person but this means I'm going to die alone, but sometimes I feel alone and scared of being old and alone. I don't own anything of value to my name, it's like I'm an old teenager.

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[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 46 minutes ago

You are scared of the unknown. Get on the internets and download a mortgage/home ownership spreadsheet. Then you can see how much house/condo you can afford, and at when you are ahead from renting.

[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

You have more than enough money to put a down payment on a mortgage for a house. Do it.

Don't imagine that you should wait until you get married, get the house for yourself, because you're right, it's an important investment, and you're just throwing your money away on rent. It's surprising you haven't bought a house yet.

Yes, you sound entitled. I was embarrassed that I had to borrow the down payment for my house from my dad, I never expected him to buy me a damn house, even though he could have just done so outright. I never felt "unloved", quite the opposite. He raised me to stand on my own feet, and now that he's gone, I'm grateful to him for doing so.

Having said all that, house prices are ridiculous right now, but are starting to crash in some markets, I'd wait no more than year to see what happens. Use that time to plan, instead of whining.

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

If you have 100k in the bank you can afford to buy your own house.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Your father shouldn't give you free money, specially if he needs it himself. Perhaps you will inherit it later.

And if he owns three houses, he worked for those. Everyone who owns their houses took a loan, then worked to pay that off eventually, over decades of work.

Its a bit weird to see that you feel like your father should sell a house and give you the money...

Your colleagues also worked and paid off their houses over years. Of course it helps to be two people since it cuts all costs in half.

[-] Nemoder@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 hour ago

everyone who owns their houses took a loan, then worked

my grandfather bought him a house

mhm.

While I don't think his father owes him a house I also don't think it's at all rude to ask if he'd be willing to help him get one.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok. I think its weird. He doesn't ask for help - he asks the father for money to buy a house. Money the dad needs in his own life.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

The grandfather bought his father a house. Just, bought him a house because he studied out of state and didnt want him to rent.

Then his father lets his kid rent, when he owns three homes.

okay.

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago
[-] 1984@lemmy.today -2 points 1 hour ago

I would be so ashamed if I was thinking like you here. Like my dad should just give me stuff because he has more then I think he needs.

Isn't this the definition of a narcissist?

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 52 minutes ago* (last edited 52 minutes ago)

Parents should help thier children if they are able.

I'll give my kid three houses and live in a box if it meant he'd have a better quality of life than I.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today -1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 35 minutes ago)

Alright. I have the view that parents are human beings too, and if they get a bit of comfort at the end of their lives, after working for decades and raising kids, im happy to support that. Very happy.

Parents already gave decades of their life to raise me, and i would never ever ask them to give their properties away just so I don't have to rent.

I guess I respect them as people, not as a source of income. And since I love them, I want them to feel as good as possible. It's not about me, me, me all the time. It's about seeing them happy. I'm here because of them.

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 2 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)

Those who have more than enough should share with those who have less than enough.

Especially since the difference between the two groups is rarely hard work, and more often good fortune (like in this case, his dad receiving a house from his grandfather).

This applies to society at large, as much as l it applies to families.

Of course people are very bad at realizing they have enough. Entitlement creeps in very easily. Before you know it, two houses are no longer enough. No, you need three.

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 20 minutes ago

And I would be ashamed if I was thinking like you. Welcome the the world.

[-] RadDevon@lemmy.zip 25 points 8 hours ago

Most of the indicators you're talking about are, in my opinion, superficial markers of adulthood. Do you show up for the people you care about? Do you fulfill your commitments? Do you look for opportunities to grow and improve? Do you do the hard thing you need to do instead of the easy thing?

These are the traits that make you an adult, not how many kids you have or whether you own or rent housing. You can have 10 kids or none and still be an adult. You can own, rent, or live in your parents' basement and still be an adult. You can't be making promises you don't keep or always taking the easy way out and be an adult. Those other things are all vanity metrics.

[-] BigTechMustBurn@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 hour ago

… or live in your parents' basement and still be an adult…

Try telling this to 99.9% of people (especially women). Doesn’t work.

[-] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 minutes ago

It depends entirely if you’re living like an adult who takes care of their own life stuff or if you’re still having mommy do your laundry for you.

Multi-generational living can definitely work and be healthy.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 47 minutes ago

I have dated so many friggen men who lived at home. I wished I had parents I could live with and save.

Skill Issue.

[-] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 8 points 7 hours ago

I'm older than you and unmarried, no kids, renting. I don't feel like a kid, though. I feel old. I understand being scared of retiring without enough, but if you can find a small house in good condition at a reasonable price, I think it would be okay to take on a mortgage with as much as you've saved. You shouldn't ask your dad for financial help, though, IMO. Money complicates relationships. Don't add feeling beholden to feeling unloved.

[-] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago

what i told you being an adult is an arbitrary and made up distinction and nobody ever actually grows up and literally every single person you have ever seen is to some degree faking it until they make it

[-] KurtVonnegut@mander.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Nobody ever makes it. You just get so good at the faking that nobody including yourself notices.

[-] Sickos@hexbear.net 3 points 4 hours ago

Correct and anyone who feels otherwise is not to be trusted

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 8 points 8 hours ago

You are doing better than most with 100k in the bank. I wouldn't sweat it much.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

For real. Most people live paycheck to paycheck, including people who make $100k+ a year. They just have bigger bills. Living within your means is one of the most essential adult skills there is. It's also lacking in most adults.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I dont think its most people who live like that... Maybe it's just the ones we hear about? I haven't seen any statistics over it but it would be surprising if most adults lives like teenagers, spending all their money every month.

When I was working, I saved money every month. It's almost as I want to say "who doesnt" but maybe there is a lot of adults not saving. Seems very stupid. What if your cooler breaks? You need money for stuff that happens in life.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 hours ago

What is an adult? It's a culturally-defined concept which you don't meet all the criteria for, and that's why you feel this way. There are certain markers that you don't possess. That's OK. I'm in a pretty similar situation to you, and I also don't feel "like an adult". Embrace it. Look for similarly situated people that you can admire.

[-] MrWrinkles@leminal.space 5 points 9 hours ago

Just turned 47. Divorced 15 years. Still single. I often feel the same way. Buying a house now in this market is insanity. Hopefully, real estate should crash again at some point.

[-] immuredanchorite@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

I have spoken to many many elderly people that either act like petulant children or they say that inside they really don’t feel like they have a different mind than when they were children/late adolescents. The truth is you are projecting largely outdated social signifiers for adulthood onto yourself. It sounds like the real problem is that you are struggling financially and asking your parents for assistance feels infantilizing but its the exact sort of thing that gave them “adulthood” (TM)...

Sure, having kids and getting married can confirm you are an adult- but honestly, having children connected me more closely with my childhood and brought back memories from childhood I thought had disappeared. It also gave me more insight into my own parents, for better or worse. Does that make me more of an adult or more of a child? considering that when I was childless and dating people I was only concerned with other adults in my life and having fun with them- and now I am putting myself in my childrens shoes and my relationship to my parents is evolving in ways it hadn’t for decades? idk if you really wanted any advice, but I guess my advice would be to worry less about measuring your life and self worth against others, and worry more about your aspirations and your community.

[-] velma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 14 hours ago

they are married, some with children, own their own condos, houses, or are paying a mortgage, but can still live a normal life, own a car, some even have the luxury of not having to work 40 hours a week, but 32 because they don't need to work more, house already paid, family and life objectives achieved.

Do you actually want these things as well or do you just feel inferior when comparing your life to theirs?

You have more money stashed than the majority of people in the US. You could do practically anything you wanted to with enough conviction and a steady job and that much in savings.

The only person you should be comparing yourself to is your past self. Life isn't a competition, you're meant to find joy within it. That's where I would start if I were you.

[-] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 19 points 14 hours ago

First just take that 100k of rainy day funds and get it into a high yield savings account at like 3-4% APY - that should at least give some solace that it’s not evaporating at the rate of inflation.

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[-] whatiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

Break your boy off a piece of the rapidly inflating contents of that bank account and I’ll fill you in on how to get past that feeling and reach a more whole state of being.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)
[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 9 points 12 hours ago

The difference between you an a teenager is 20something years of life experience. Don't infantalise yourself

[-] Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org 3 points 10 hours ago

And $100k in the bank 🙄

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 hours ago

There is 100% teenagers with access to assests far beyond this, being in your 40s doesn't mean youve got access to anything tbh

[-] helix@feddit.org 13 points 13 hours ago

Hey Grok, define "midlife crisis of the mainstream male"

scnr, please go to therapy! You deserve to be happy.

[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 3 points 8 hours ago

That feeling when Groks definition of midlife crisis of mainstream male also applies to me, a female

[-] helix@feddit.org 2 points 7 hours ago

This is why the patriarchy invented dating apps. You ought to hop on there and select an affluent male for breeding, so they can provide you with money in exchange for you tolerating their lack of everything else. 🙃

[-] znonymous@hexbear.net 8 points 12 hours ago

Getting married and having kids really really sucks. This horrific world is going to ruin my children. I am not rich enough to protect them.

I am terrified. I should never have thought I could do this. The worst part is, I knew better.

Don't do it. The rulers don't deserve your children.

If you do get married, marry someone you trust with your very life itself, and don't have kids.

Unless you are very rich and already own a lot of shit. Then do what you want.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 minutes ago

I relate to this a lot.

[-] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

As someone with far less and fully satisfied, there is truly no standard. The idea of always wanting or needing more is something that is pushed upon us at a massive societal level. If you have the things you truly need, you can work towards things you want, and if you have the things you want, congrats. You’re there. It is an option to feel like you need more than what you have once your essentials are met. No one other than yourself actually cares if you’re ambitious and if you don’t get satisfaction from the ambition to pursue more, then don’t.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago

Daaamn, you have a hundred grand?

I’m almost 41 and you’re doing better than I am!

[-] Shindo66@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, im 41, i have a wife, a nice house, 2 cars, 4 kids, 3 dogs and quite a bit of debt. I wouldn't trade any of that for the world, but i would love 100k in the bank...

[-] Raptor_007@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Also 41. Also same.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago

You are doing very well. I got married at 42. It's the only time I've been married and was the worst mistake I've ever made. I love my spouse very much, but it was still a very big mistake. Don't envy those people. Being lonely is still easier, and kids suck. Go get married and see how fast you save money then. You'll be fucked.

[-] BigTechMustBurn@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Being lonely is still easier…

Lonely != alone. Big difference.

[-] Vacationlandgirl@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I tried to upvote you twice, but it wouldn't let me!

[-] BassTurd@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

If you want a house, you have 100k in the bank and could put some of that down as a down payment. Idk where you live or what your housing market is like, but if you could find a smaller place for a reasonable price, you may pay less on a mortgage than on rent, and you'd be building equity.

When I bought my first house over a decade ago, I think it was under 100k, but wasn't large. I don't think I put anything down other than the earnest money. Because I wasn't at 20% down, I did have to pay for PMI as part of my mortgage, but it was like $50 a month given the cost of our place. I've since moved and purchased two house since then, rolling the equity from the previous to the new one. My current mortgage payment is the first time I'm paying more monthly than when I was renting, but houses do have maintenance you have can't offload on a landlord. I think it's still significantly cheaper in the long run, but moreso the equity is the biggest upgrade.

For retirement, it's definitely good to invest what you have saved, to a degree. You could talk to a financial planner to help you invest within your tolerance level. If you aren't doing so already and it's available through work, you should be maxing out your 401k match at the minimum. If you can spare it, it's better to put more in you 401k than to keep it in savings thanks to compounding interest, and the taxes that aren't taken. That annual max for 401k is I think more than 20k annually.

But with all of that, you need to live the life you want to, not the life that others are living. I love having a house and as long as I'm able to, I will never rent again, but I know people that don't want the responsibility of home ownership, that have no desires to purchase. I don't have kids because I don't want them. My wife an I travel and do pretty much what we want when we want, within reason. Kids cost a lot and we have more money because of our choices, and are both very happy with our decision. Point being, you don't have to live a "normal" life to have a fulfilling and successful life. If you are unsure on things like investing, find an expert to help out. If you want a house, you have the finances to do so. Don't compare yourself to others in different situations as some barometer of success and adulthood.

[-] Asafum@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

I just want to second the comment here about a high yield savings account, or even a CD. They're both low/no risk investments. If the money you have is just sitting there you might as well be getting interest on it and a high yield savings, or a CD, aren't exposed to the market so you can only lose if the bank shuts down and the FDIC can't reimburse you, but if that happens we all have much bigger issues to worry about lol

I'm in a much worse situation than you, also at 40, so I definitely feel your pain here. Single, renting a garage "apartment," working a shitty dead end factory job, and no inheritance to ever expect to receive. I too don't feel like a real adult, but a failure of a human. So you're not alone there for sure.

[-] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Unless the family is filthy rich and can weather all of the storms that come with old age, it’s best to not count on it and be pleasantly surprised is there is an inheritance - expect nothing other than what you yourself can provide for is the best approach imo … this is the American way these days. I’m early 40s and am not even counting on social security being around, be cool if it is, but this place is a shit show.

[-] CCMan1701A@startrek.website 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I only got a house as the monthly was below that of rent. When I was renting, I read the richest man in Babylon book. Its a bit dated advice, but I combined that with the play yourself monthly mentally. What I mean is I set aside some money each month for me to spend on anything extra. New pants, go out to movies, whatever. This money can also carryover to allow for a larger purchase, like a phone.

Anyway, don't look to others as an indicator to your life journey. Write your story and don't stress.

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