To be criminally charged for this is absolutely insane. The fact everyone knows he's a lowlife and his name is out there is enough.
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Yeah for me the world has gone too soft. I don't see a crime to be honest there worth going to court for. It was utterly stupid and disgusting what he did but I feel like going to court was too far for it.
Let the club ban him and the media report on it but it feels excessive as he's already lost his job and any future employer will see what he's done with any background check.
People should be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them, I'm sure he's not a bad person at all just did a stupid thing and now will pay for the rest of his life.
I'm sure he's not a bad person
Good people don't tend to mock children who died from cancer, just saying.
Anyone can make a mistake in the heat of the moment with alcohol involved. Imagine one mistake defining you for the rest of your life. If he's acknowledged the mistake learned from it and makes him a better person then that's much more important than villifying him and going to court over such a thing.
I don't agree with a criminal offence and going to court over the matter.
Look at the thread about Grealish yesterday, people saying he's such a lovable guy yet he drove and wrote his car off while absolutely steaming.
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It’s a public order offence though? And his sentence was suspended. I don’t get the issue.
It's disgusting that this is deemed a criminal offence. He's a moron, but what he did shouldn't have been against the law.
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Why is it so hard for some people to not be giant fucking cunts
Alcoholic human garbage
Suppose that's a fair cop but the wider question is how do you stop an idiot being an idiot?
Fair judgment. Socially, he's been wrecked, and will suffer the consequences for a lifetime. And if local rumours are to be believed, he's been knocked around a bit too. I don't think a short prison sentence will punish him any further, and he's not exactly a threat to the public at large.
Dickhead move and banworthy from the stadium? Ostracized from the community? Fair. But really? Arrest and sentenced? C’mon UK saying mean things shouldn’t get you locked in a cell. I guess I am just used to American free speech.
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Imagine being a 32 year old man and doing that. I know being a dickhead isn't technically a crime and I don't think he should necessarily be charged with anything, but I'm kinda happy he's being shamed like this.
What a fucking moron.
Basically torn his own world apart for literally no reason at all.
For anyone who can't click on the link, in doing this utterly fucking stupid thing, he has:
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Been given a 5-year stadium ban.
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Had to pay a £154 victim surcharge.
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Had to pay £85 in prosecution costs.
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12-week suspended prison sentence (suspended for up to 18 months).
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Ordered to do 200 hours of unpaid work.
What a fucking moron.
It even says in the article that he's had to move out of his parents' home because of the backlash his actions caused, and apparently his relationship with his partner has been affected too.
Can't believe someone would willingly do something like that anyway, such a stupid and unkind thing to do, and that's even before you get to how fucking stupid it is to do these days anyway, especially when we live in a world where everything is recorded.
The guy is 32, his parents are probably happy to have an excuse to make him move out.
One suspects they're the problem.
I knew this guy reasonably well at school, although that is a long time ago now he was always a bit of an idiot but I was surprised by this because he should know better than most about how a the death of a child can affect family and friends.
When he was around 15-16 Dale lost his best friend in an awful traffic collision where he was hit by a coach while crossing the dual carriageway outside school. It was fucking awful, it had a huge impact on his friends and family including Dale. So I thought he of all people would know better.
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Also lost his job as a window fitter.
And the job after that, was thrown out of his parents' home and had problems with his partner. According to this article, he seemed remorseful during the court proceedings and afterwards, so hopefully he learned a lesson, and many other onlookers.
Chat shit get banged I guess...
suspended prison sentence for that? 200hrs of unpaid work? lol jesus, thats excessive
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I don't care if it was too much of a punishment, he fucking deserves it
This just has the potential to create a horrendous slippery slope
While obviously these men are vile cunts, these harsh crack downs on free speech are becoming an alarming trend the last few years
What a daft cunt 😂😂😂
It seems every week I see the UK criminally charging people for disgusting and offensive chants, gestures etc.
They are disgusting acts but to criminally charge for this is insanity and a slippery slope to the Government deciding what you can and can’t say.
Slippery slope? These laws have existed for longer than both of us have been alive.
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Why is insanity when it’s a breach of the Public Order Act 1986? This is nothing new. I’m not sure I understand how anyone is complaining.
The government represents the people. We’ve had this laws for over a hundred years.
We aren’t America, we don’t view free speech in the same way.
Why though?
The law isn't new, we've had lots of iterations of it over the centuries.
Also, freedom of speech isn't freedom of consequences for saying it or doing it.
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The only difference between the UK and China is the degree of surveillance and control, although with the ULEZ cameras and people getting arrested for standing on streets thinking wrong thoughts the UK is fighting valiantly to close the distance.
My dude, are you still trying to push this narrative that the UK is a police state?
Just take the L and move on.
You didn't look up the definition, you are embarrassed. I get it.
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Am I gonna cry for this moron? Not one tear.
Is this punishment reasonable? Fuck, I just don't know man...
Is the punishment unreasonable? Probably.
Do I care about someone who thought it would be funny to make fun of a child who dies of cancer? Absolutely not, they can throw the book at him for all I care
100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons.
Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves
He isn't though. It's a suspended sentence.
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It's just banter
Sad life if you find mocking a dead child banter
While I don’t feel like he should have been criminally charged, I don’t feel bad for him it’s a dickhead thing to do and I don’t even know how you could make a funny joke from that
The idea of him potentially doing jail time for this is a bit silly but I'm definitely not opposed to the unpaid work/community service part of the punishment.
I feel like community service and just compensation for the victim is good, jail time for speech just isnt a good idea unless it actively puts someone or a group of people in danger
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