▲ 2 ▼ Football fan gets suspended sentence after mocking mascot Bradley Lowery (www.theguardian.com) submitted 2 years ago by LudereHumanum@alien.top [B] to c/main@soccer.forum 105 comments fedilink hide all child comments This article is from November 17th, so a couple days old, but I found it worthwhile.
[–] NotoriousFregula@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children) Am I gonna cry for this moron? Not one tear. Is this punishment reasonable? Fuck, I just don't know man... permalink fedilink source hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Cubes11@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Is the punishment unreasonable? Probably. Do I care about someone who thought it would be funny to make fun of a child who dies of cancer? Absolutely not, they can throw the book at him for all I care permalink fedilink source parent [–] 726wox@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) 100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons. Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Goudinho99@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What I don't know is does he have a criminal record now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RNLImThalassophobic@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely, yes. He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become 'spent' 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be 'unspent' for the next 15 months. While his conviction is 'unspent' he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced. After it becomes 'spent' it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed ('filtered') from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can't ever be filtered). It's against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they've got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor). permalink fedilink source parent [–] pavoganso@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Well since he was convicted of course he does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGoldenPineapples@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago He isn't though. It's a suspended sentence. permalink fedilink source parent [–] LudereHumanum@alien.top [S, B] 1 point 2 years ago I'm with you tbh. For context: Here in Germany this is the reason that offenders have a right to privacy, so their faces and their full names aren't allowed to be shown / named (in german media). This regulation has its own issues imo, but makes sense in this case: The offender gets punished, but they don't have to suffer their whole life for it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cubes11@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Is the punishment unreasonable? Probably. Do I care about someone who thought it would be funny to make fun of a child who dies of cancer? Absolutely not, they can throw the book at him for all I care permalink fedilink source parent
[–] 726wox@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children) 100% suspended sentence is correct. What he did is bad but he shouldn’t be taking up a cell in overflowing prisons. Suspended essentially means no more public order offences so hopefully behaves permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Goudinho99@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What I don't know is does he have a criminal record now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RNLImThalassophobic@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely, yes. He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become 'spent' 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be 'unspent' for the next 15 months. While his conviction is 'unspent' he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced. After it becomes 'spent' it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed ('filtered') from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can't ever be filtered). It's against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they've got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor). permalink fedilink source parent [–] pavoganso@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Well since he was convicted of course he does. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGoldenPineapples@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago He isn't though. It's a suspended sentence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Goudinho99@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) What I don't know is does he have a criminal record now? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RNLImThalassophobic@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely, yes. He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become 'spent' 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be 'unspent' for the next 15 months. While his conviction is 'unspent' he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced. After it becomes 'spent' it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed ('filtered') from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can't ever be filtered). It's against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they've got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor). permalink fedilink source parent [–] pavoganso@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Well since he was convicted of course he does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RNLImThalassophobic@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Absolutely, yes. He got a 3-month custodial sentence. Convictions resulting in custodial sentences shorter than 12 months become 'spent' 12 months after the sentence ends. So, his conviction will be 'unspent' for the next 15 months. While his conviction is 'unspent' he still only needs to tell an organisation about it (e.g. for a job application) if they ask him, but it will show up on any DBS - basic, standard or enhanced. After it becomes 'spent' it will only show up on a standard or enhanced DBS check. He only needs to tell a potential employer, university or college about it if they ask him to and they tell him the role needs a standard or enhanced DBS check and it has not been removed ('filtered') from DBS certificates (as it resulted in a custodial sentence, it can't ever be filtered). It's against the law for an employer, university or college to refuse someone a role because they've got a spent conviction or caution, unless it makes them unsuitable for the role (i.e. a driving conviction might make them unsuitable for a job as a driving instructor). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pavoganso@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago Well since he was convicted of course he does. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGoldenPineapples@alien.top [B] 1 point 2 years ago He isn't though. It's a suspended sentence. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LudereHumanum@alien.top [S, B] 1 point 2 years ago I'm with you tbh. For context: Here in Germany this is the reason that offenders have a right to privacy, so their faces and their full names aren't allowed to be shown / named (in german media). This regulation has its own issues imo, but makes sense in this case: The offender gets punished, but they don't have to suffer their whole life for it. permalink fedilink source parent