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Here's a little schematic to understand the layout. Help me figure out this mistery, not only to satisfy my curiosity but also to know if the cats in my street are in any danger.

Before reading and to avoid triggering any of you, my cat is fine and he was asking for belly rubs in the sun on my backyard just now.

So, I live in the house with the backyard with the B. My cat occasionally hangs around my neighbor's backyard too. At curfew, if he's outside, I come calling and he comes in.

Last night I called him in the backyard at B and he didn't come but he was replying terrified. I know his meowing and this was "I can hear you, I'm scared, help me". I couldn't see him since only my backyard had any light. Every time I called he replied immediately in the same panic. That by itself wouldn't scare me since he's very anxious and easily startled. Once he entered the neighbor's house and got locked in and he was yelling for me from inside the exact same way. But this time was different. The sound came from the outside the house, somewhere around the circle in A. And always from the same exact place. It really seemed he was stuck, he was definitely not budging.

I went around the house through the empty terrain (blue arrow) with a flashlight to see if I could see him and figure what was wrong. As I started moving through the low vegetation I heard and somewhat saw some movement in C in the direction of the arrow. I called my cat again and he was no longer replying. I looked inside my neighbor's backyard and saw nothing.

I went back into the house. My mother was in the backyard (B) calling my neighbor. She said she saw nothing but heard a huge noise inside the house near the backdoor. The description of the noise sounded a lot like my cat running in panic. After a while looking for him inside and outside we eventually found him hiding behind furniture, peeking very cautiously. It took a while but he recovered. He has no injury or any kind mark of any struggle on his fur.

What I'm pretty sure happened:

  • He was around A completely terrified of something and was not budging
  • At the moment I entered the empty field whatever C was, it ran from me
  • Also at that moment, my little demon flew through the fences and into my backdoor so quick my mother couldn't even see him and made a huge noise running for his life (as he often does)

What I have no clue and want to find out:

  • Most important, what the hell could C have been?

  • Was my furry murderer frozen on fear or was something actually physically preventing him from leaving

  • How long was he "stuck" there until I came calling him for curfew?

Some relevant information and, since I know some you are against leaving your cats going outside:

  • My cats are indoor/outdoor, as most are here, and they can come and go as they please, though mine mostly stay inside and in my backyard. The cat in question explores just a bit more, but not much.

  • At night, they have curfew and are inside only, and they know that routine

  • It's a calm street and the cars are slow. Also, for specific reasons my cats are terrified of cars and they even hide when they hear an engine.

  • There are no known cat predators here. This is southwestern Europe in a 500k city suburb. There is a small woodland near here which I know very well and the most dangerous thing there is a hedgehog (I actually had one living in my backyard for a year). A fox is very unlikely since I never saw one here. But I have seen foxes in stranger places.

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[-] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 3 hours ago

Keep your cats indoors if you value their health and respect your neighbors

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Coddled cats can be afraid of any animal larger than a baby rabbit, it wasn't necessarily a rational fear. My last cat was afraid of a cat that was afraid of him, both were very cuddly wusses. When they crossed each other's paths, they'd both be stuck in place meowing at each other for a very long time, and my cat would ask for help when he heard us.

When the other cat wasn't afraid of my cat, things went differently: the other cat would silently look at my cat for a few minutes to take his messure, charge him, and my cat would go up a tree or come running to us if possible. No long standoffs, just a few minutes of noise (from my cat) and then flight.

Given how long your cat was trapped by this unknown animal, I suspect that your cat's adventure was probably a non event and that your cat was afraid of something that wasn't actually aggressive.

Foxes are everywhere in Europe, also in suburbs and cities. They're just nocturnal and there's not that many of them compared to house cats/dogs since they have to fend for themselves. Non sick foxes won't go out of their way to attack adult cats, even if those cats are afraid of them.

[-] BigBenis@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

Definitely sounds like a chupacabra encounter.

[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I was gonna say a Coyote (you'd be surprised how far into a populated area they'll travel) but then "Europe" and I don't think you have those, so nevermind (unless your country does have them and I'm wrong, then that's my guess).

If I had to guess given that, fox or rival cat. Maybe stray dog.

[-] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago

I'd like to defend the Americans who keep their cats indoors and strongly oppose outdoor cats. If you live in most areas of the US your cat has a good chance of being eaten by a larger predator. It's pretty normal for cats to be attacked by coyotes, bobcats, feral dogs, birds of prey and even raccoons. All of those predators and worst of all humans in cars, we have a lot of them and we go fast. I am part of a couple community FB groups and they'll get a post a week of a dead cat found on the roadside. If it sounds like our roads are just covered with dead animals, you are right. There is death on every shoulder.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 hours ago

All cats should be indoor cats. Even if there are not predators, they can be and disrupt the local bird and lizard population.

[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Yes. Cats here should be indoor cats. Even in the city there are raccoons, coyotes, alligators, dogs in people's yards, and CARS. I let them out briefly and supervised, sometimes, to catch a lizard if they are watching them out the window. Or as others say, occasionally on a harness to wander the garden, and eat a little grass.

Obviously that's not always possible, there are feral outdoor cats that sometimes show up, the city has a spay/neuter and release program for those.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

No! You don't understand! The cars here drive slowly, and pookums can recognize the noise!

[-] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Oh jeez I forgot about gators, we got fuckin dinosaurs hunting outdoor cats in some states.

I live in Maine, the primary killer of outdoor cats is cars #1 followed by trucks then the weather. A little north from me bears, bobcats and lynx become a problem.

[-] hateisreality@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Indoor cat owner here.... I couldn't ever find my babies like the poor turtle trying to cross the street... People hit animals

[-] Jollyllama@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

People are the worst.

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[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 26 points 14 hours ago

Do we need a separate "Non-American Cats" community, so non-American people can ask cat questions without half the thread being derailed by all this indoor/outdoor argument?

[-] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

There's no place where outdoor pets are responsible.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Do non American cats not contract FIV, get hit by cars, destroy the local bird populations, and have lower lifespans than indoor cats?

This isn't about America, as much as you & OP want to make it seem like. It's about doing the right thing for your pets.

[-] socsa@piefed.social 0 points 3 hours ago

It's straight up rude to your neighbors as well, regardless of predators or disease.

I raise pigeons and actively trap cats on my property, because I have no other choice. I wish people could just not be so fucking dense about this.

[-] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Yep, exactly. And when you let your cats roam free, it also has a cyclical effect where it brings more cats to the area. Cats are very territorial, especially outdoors, and tomcats are especially driven to expand their range and territory. It's super selfish to allow your cats outdoors in just about every way.

[-] HexagonSun@lemmy.zip 11 points 13 hours ago

Yes!

With explicit rules against even mentioning this.

[-] nooch@lemmy.vg 5 points 13 hours ago

Indoor/outdoor argument is universal and for good reason.

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[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

OP is in Germany. You can't even adopt a cat if it's not allowed to go outside.

Keine Ahnung aber labern??? Halte deine Katzen drinne und lass sie nicht in die sandkisten und in den sand unter schaukeln kacken. Echt so respektlos und ekelhaft das man auf spielplätzen erstmal alles nach hunde und katzenscheisse absuchen muss

[-] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 5 points 9 hours ago

In Australia we are going in the other direction towards cats are indoors only unless you have a completely enclosed outdoor 'cat run' kind of space.
They are absolutely decimating local fauna and free roaming domestic cats & feral cats is a big issue in some areas pushing species toward endagered status.

[-] vermeil@feddit.org 8 points 11 hours ago

I'm from Germany and you can definitely adopt an "only indoors" cat.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

Not Germany but it's normal to let your cats come outside as they please (if the place is safe of course).

[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 0 points 6 hours ago

nonsense, where the hell do you get your information from? Do you think people in apartments just don't have cats? Cats are better kept indoors anyways

[-] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I live in Germany and have been trying to adopt a cat for the past few years. Every single Tierheim insists on Freigang.

I have an indoor cat now, purely because the cat distribution system got me. Not because a Tierheim thought "hey, maybe it's better for an animal to live in an apartment than in a fucking Tierheim!"

[-] Lauchmelder@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

I live in Germany and had no problem adopting a cat for an apartment, where at most they get to go on the balcony. Your shelters are just weird.

A shelter that insists that a cat must be able to shred the animals in the ecosystem around it to pieces sounds kinda sketchy to me

[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 6 points 11 hours ago

El Chupa Cabra!

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago

If you discover more please let us know. This retelling was better than a lot of movies I've seen lately. All the best.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

I'm now convinced it was just a younger cat that put the fear of god on my little pussy pants.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 33 points 19 hours ago

New big neighbouring stray that bullied your cat. Cat often will not move from another cat, and will have staring competition with them, but this time the competing cat might be larger so your cat is afraid but will not budge because that cat will give chase if he run. Cat will often run from any other animal but not cat, they will have a staring competition.

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