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[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago

This is just a proposal by some Flatpak developers. The more important thing is that flatpak will have better cgroups integration which will be cool to see (already in progress I think).

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 2 points 38 minutes ago

some flatpak developers

Not the protocol nak dick that was kicked out of Wayland

[-] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 8 points 6 hours ago

i have found actually working with flatpaks to be very tiresome

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

GNOME is the bane of FOSS. Wasn't flatpak marketed as the universal packaging system?

[-] trompete@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

Why is that Gnome's fault please explain.

GNOME is the Apple of Linux

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 hours ago

GNOME only knows three things: have a good idea, fuck it up, and ignore community feedback.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago

shrug-outta-hecks I dislike Flatpak a lot more than Systemd

Same here. Arch + Nix + AppImages + Homebrew + Distrobox and you pretty much have it.

[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 6 points 5 hours ago

A match made in hell

[-] RION@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

Systemd lets me do my fun podman containers so this is cool by me blob-no-thoughts

[-] Inui@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

I'm a flatpak advocate and have been wanting better permission capabilities similar to Android, so I don't really care how they do it. I've never been presented with any reason as to why people dislike systemd other than "Linux is about choice", when the choices in my eyes are like having 50 cans of the same soup at the store with slightly different ingredients and half of them are expired.

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

Have you tried systemd-nspawn?

[-] RION@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

No but from like two Google searches it doesn't seem to be particularly suited to my use case. I'm just running a couple services like a music server and not a particularly advanced user

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's basically a more systemd-integrated version of docker/podman. I think you could run a container without too much trouble by creating an "OCI bundle" from an existing container image and running that. But you're right it might be slightly more hassle.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

The article is speculative and not confirmed. It's an opinion piece based a conference talk given by 2 software developers.

In a blog post last year, one of the developers from the conference, Sebastian Wick said that they are planning a way for flatpak to be able to communicate with systemd. In another blogpost, it says that they don't want to make flatpak be dependent on Linux or exclusive to Linux systems. It seems systemd will be optional.

https://blog.sebastianwick.net/posts/flatpak-happenings/

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Main gnome devs on Reddit are essentially saying "it sucks to be you" to systemd less distro users.

[-] hello_hello@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago

It will just be another situation like userdb or elogind/eudev where this component has to be implemented in other operating systems to be compatible, a big nothing burger.

[-] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

2 software developers.

Aka most of the flatpak maintainers.

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