Every second Nvidia abandons consumers in favor of businesses for the majority of their sales, China improves their manufacturing and prepares to flood the global market, including the USA, with cheap yet powerful GPUs.
It's only a matter of time before this AI bubble pops, and the US government bails out these corporations with our fucking tax dollars.
Dont worry, there are no tax dollars left.
The cmegroup, where metals and oil are traded, has a profit of 770 million dollars.
Meaning it will take over a decades of the cme's straight up profit to pay off one of the cheeto in chief's recent grifts.
One.
He has pulled off multiple ten thousand million dollar heists of us taxpayer money in the last year.
There wont be a bailout, these fucks are spending that cash as quickly as they possibly can under the expectation that the dollar is about to be worthless.
It's not going to pop because it's about building datacenters and Ai for the control system of human beings. Not for chat bots.
This is the infrastructure for dystopia that is coming up and people think it's about AI chat bots... Why do people continue to trust what these companies say instead of look at what they do?
Nvidia is heavily invested in robots as well. Because they know where this is going.
From chat bots to murder bots in a blink of an eye.
Maybe now devs will care about optimization since nobody can buy GPUs hence no one will pay for a game that they cant run. Either optimization or bankrupcy ig.
Honestly, this is such a nice silver lining, my 3080 that’s like 6 years old is still working fine even on newer titles since no one is making/ buying better cards (or cards with more VRAM) in large quantities.
I can’t remember having a GPU this old that was still relevant, my old 780ti was so limited by its 3gb vram.
Just wait until driver support is ended by nvidia. I have two P40 which are powerful and work well but nvidia just ended support (for compute) but I think the point still stands. Maybe it will be better with the new oss drivers
Good. Let them dig their own grave. The world is currently figuring out how to do training and inference without using GPUs. They will ultimately be left behind.
From what I’ve read, they don’t care because they don’t want us buying them. Their big picture sees us doing online cloud gaming through a virtual computer that you connect to. They no longer want anybody to have home PC’s.
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When that happens, its imperitive that you dont participate. We need to reuse, and repair current and older machines.
I’d much rather game on old hardware or janky arm based stuff than use hardware as a service, even if it means being 10+ years behind in performance. There are so many great games that will run on pretty much anything
I got a XP PC for playing The Sims 3 and some Lego games and such on it. The PC was my first ever PC, and I have since upgraded it with free parts I have found in the trash.. You won't believe what kind of top-notch-at-the-time things people just throw away. It's quite pleasant lil machine, my lil machine.
I ardently wish that gamers, or at least people who spend money on games, were better at withholding their filthy lucre.
that's fine. my library is big enough that I probably don't need to buy a single game for the rest of my life
I will, but I won't need to.
But the lag!
Nah honestly, there is enough games in existence that I will never, ever use shit like cloud gaming. I'd rather stop alltogether.
Everything they leave is up for grabs. Someone will take their place. Let's just hope it's soon.
I'm starting to think we will end up with no high-end dedicated graphics hardware being available for home use.
we'll all just buy used-up AI GPUs and some genius will figure out how to run them from exisiting drivers and we'll have to pirate the software because the GPU manufacturers will try and lock down their 'IP'. Eventually, the card makers will throw us a bone and provide a much shittier piece of software, but we'll all just keep using the cracked one.
AI GPUs either just use the same standard driver packages that gaming GPUs use, or they use slightly cut down ones because they physically lack internal hardware like display heads or rt cores. With those it's not a matter of drivers, it's a physical lack of hardware that a game engine or display would expect.
If you had an rtx 6000 Blackwell in your PC right now you'd just install the same drivers as the 5090, 5050, or 3060 (its the same driver across all three of these)
Buy an AMD GPU Challenge (Impossible)
i have the suspicion that the next GPU i'll buy will be from a chinese manufacturer.
Or, alternatively, the world recognizes that AI in its current form is only cost effective in special cases and only a hole to shovel money into when used broadly. In this case, the hundreds of thousands of Blackwell GPUs sitting in warehouses will lose their worth rapidly and i can build my own AI cluster for myself from the fire sales.
They're making a solid bet here.
Look at the breakdown from Steam surveys, it's almost always ~75% Nvidia. They know they have the gamer market down on lock and they know gamers aren't going to buy something else as long as their competitor can't fake as many frames as them and they know they have a lock on developers in a Ouroboros of vendor lock of more fake frames and AI slop filters that leads to more gamers who clamor for more fake frames and bad AI instagram filters.
Meanwhile they're making money hand over fist with stupid AI and that money is money without relying directly on being AI for the most part so if the bubble bursts it's not like they're going to be overly hurt and then they know they can pivot right back to fake frames and slop filters and gamers will come running right back.
It could change relatively quickly though. Consider that Valve's devices are all ultimately AMD devices. If Valve's bet pays off, then those numbers should change (to what extent, I don't know).
The Linux gaming community in general (which small as it is, is growing) is definitely shifting AMD. On the nvidia side are a bunch of driver woes and poor support. Meanwhile AMD's drivers are literally baked into the kernel. No contest for ease.
This could all be wrong. Definitely. But the optimist in me sees a glimmer of hope depending on where the enthusiast community goes, how successful Valve is with their coming machines, etc.
Orrrrr... The whole PC enthusiast community dies because AI keeps driving prices into the sky and it never recovers in any meaningful way.
In a gold rush, the smart businessman doesn't prospect, he sells shovels.
At least for now, the consumer DIY PC market as we know it is gone.
Gone is too strong of a word. Inaccessible to more Americans then before, yes, but not gone.
I have several friends that work at AMD and NVIDIA in the graphics (hw and sw) groups. They’re all in a slow transition to other compute groups. Their comments are that once we got ray tracing there wasn’t much in terms of hardware optimization for them other than increasing memory bandwidth. Everything else comes down to software.
Multi frame generation and dlss has made give improvements. It's pretty clear that with a little more improvements, gpus will be able to output 5-10x the data with the same hardware. I'm not surprised they are focusing on that right now.
...so how long till all the big game companies put some weight on our end of the stick cause they see their profits somewhat tied to gamers being able to find and afford parts?
(i know its never, but a fella can dream)
GDC was full of developers talking about how the lack of hardware is changing how they are approaching game design
Hopefully it’ll force more optimization. We have incredibly powerful hardware already. If they just took the time to optimize we wouldn’t need 5090s to run 60fps. This may be a boon overall.
Was good while it lasted
If they’re not breaking out the numbers for gaming GPUs separately, it’s not because they don’t care it’s because the numbers are terrible.
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