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[-] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 3 points 9 hours ago
[-] marius@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago

It stayed the same. Just like the name of the ship

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 hours ago

But is it still the same ship if we changed its name?

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

we should keep reposting this post but modify little by little until we get a completely reconstructed repost

[-] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

My favorite ship of Theseus example is the Roman Empire. They started out as a Latin speaking polytheistic + republican empire with Rome as capital; and hundreds of years later they had become a greek speaking monotheistic + monarchistic empire with Constantinople as capital. When did they stop being Romans? According to themselves, never.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

This is a good allegory for the racists claiming the country is theirs and foreigners need to be kicked out.

Are modern brits even brits anymore? If heritage matters so much how like our ancestors are we really?

[-] Johanno@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago

Well I can tell you how the answer will be:

People who weren't born in the USA, but look "right" are true Americans and can stay (Elon Musk)

People who look foreign (for example Latin) But have always lived in the USA since it was founded. They need to go. Such people they don't want in "their" country

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Let’s say you have an ax. Just a cheap one, from Home Depot. On one bitter winter day, you use said ax to behead a man. Don’t worry, the man was already dead. Or maybe you should worry, because you’re the one who shot him.

He had been a big, twitchy guy with veiny skin stretched over swollen biceps, a tattoo of a swastika on his tongue. Teeth filed into razor-sharp fangs—you know the type. And you’re chopping off his head because, even with eight bullet holes in him, you’re pretty sure he’s about to spring back to his feet and eat the look of terror right off your face.

On the follow-through of the last swing, though, the handle of the ax snaps in a spray of splinters. You now have a broken ax. So, after a long night of looking for a place to dump the man and his head, you take a trip into town with your ax. You go to the hardware store, explaining away the dark reddish stains on the broken handle as barbecue sauce. You walk out with a brand-new handle for your ax.

The repaired ax sits undisturbed in your garage until the spring when, on one rainy morning, you find in your kitchen a creature that appears to be a foot-long slug with a bulging egg sac on its tail. Its jaws bite one of your forks in half with what seems like very little effort. You grab your trusty ax and chop the thing into several pieces. On the last blow, however, the ax strikes a metal leg of the overturned kitchen table and chips out a notch right in the middle of the blade.

Of course, a chipped head means yet another trip to the hardware store. They sell you a brand-new head for your ax. As soon as you get home, you meet the reanimated body of the guy you beheaded earlier. He’s also got a new head, stitched on with what looks like plastic weed-trimmer line, and it’s wearing that unique expression of “you’re the man who killed me last winter” resentment that one so rarely encounters in everyday life.

You brandish your ax. The guy takes a long look at the weapon with his squishy, rotting eyes and in a gargly voice he screams, “That’s the same ax that beheaded me!”

Is he right?

Edit: You can even watch this (slightly altered) quote in live action!

Read and watch John Dies at The End. You simply must.

[-] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

It is simultaneously the same axe and not the same axe. In a strict material sense, the final axe bears no relationship to the OG axe but in the figurative sense it is the same axe.

We must accept this paradox in the same way we must accept that our bodies are in a constant state of renewal and the person we were seven years ago has been completely renewed at a cellular level (maybe bones are exempt but brain cells don't last forever). We tend to think of ourselves as a continuous process and our identity persists and is stable. On the other hand, it's easy to argue that we are not the same person as we were seven years ago, we have grown and changed physically and spiritually. Only our identity documents contend that our identity is static. We seek stability and certainty everywhere and find it nowhere. If we can accept the ever changing nature of the universe at large we can find solace in constant change because that's how it will always be.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Aww, man, you’ve really got to read the book. From that comment alone I am 100% certain you’d love it for nothing more than the chewy thoughts with long lasting flavor that it has to offer on that precise level.

[-] ScrooLewse@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 13 hours ago

It bothers me SO MUCH that the film cut the plotlines from the book that that riddle was hinting towards, but kept the intro as a cryptic, unfulfilled promise.

[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Sort of in the same boat, but I also feel like that is a specific case of a book to movie adaptation in that it feels like it’s meant to be watched before reading the book and that it knows that it is not the book. Coscarelli seems to have intentionally done the film in a way to not spoil the book because they knew there was no way they could ever make a proper adaptation without a budget like Endgame had, but they still managed really nail the feel of the book and characters, and that opening primer is so integral to that feel.

[-] Billygoat@piefed.social 39 points 1 day ago
[-] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

John Dies At The End by Jason Pargin. My favorite book series of all time, no contest. That’s how the book starts.

The fifth book, There Are No Giant Crabs in This Novel: A Novel of Giant Crabs, is releasing this year.

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[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

You brandish your ax. The guy takes a long look at the weapon with his squishy, rotting eyes and in a gargly voice he screams, “That’s the same ax that beheaded me!”

Is he right?

Does that grant it some additional symbolic power over him? Then, yes, I'll gladly concede the point and chop him down again with "the same ax".

Nah, for that kind of plot armor you’d probably want to blast something like Holding Out for a Hero by Bonnie Tyler or Home Sweet Home by Motley Crue.

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

If the guy has a new head is it the same guy though?? 🤔

[-] psud@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago

He's animated by the same evil entity

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[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

shoutout the community run wikipedia mastodon account. Pretty funny to see the official Wikipedia account respond to peoples hornyposts lol

https://wikis.world/@wikipedia

[-] GlennMagusHarvey@mander.xyz 41 points 1 day ago

Oh dang this is on Mastodon? Gotta follow this account now.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 day ago

There is plenty of porn on Wikimedia Commons.

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[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My favorite of all time is the beautiful simplicity of the first version of the article "YouTube", by Gary, Christmas 2005:

YouTube is a website for hosting videos. It is similar to Flickr, except instead of photos, it is for videos.

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 39 points 1 day ago

Clicking on newer revision lets you walk through time.

[-] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can also check the diffs to see exactly what changed! Seeing how major articles progressed (especially ones that started in the early 2000s or when the subject was only marginally notable) is a lot of fun.

And honestly, if you're doing that and see someone who put in a lot of good, thankless work, dropping a "thanks" on their talk page even years later (or even just using the 'Thank' button) would probably make their day.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

If you printed out all those edits on paper you could use them in laminate to build a ship of Theseus ship. Of course you would have to continually replace the paper as it got waterlogged and sloughed off.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

In the game Nier Automata there is an NPC in the main settlement who talks about how he won't replace his leg since it's the only piece of him that hasn't been replaced. He feels that if he replaces his legs he would no longer be the same person. This made me think of that.

[-] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its important to mention that the leg is also robotic. They're all androids.

Edit: It's not that important, I should've said "Just to clarify" instead.

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[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 19 points 1 day ago

One related to this I always wondered.

A man and woman marry, they grow old, the woman dies.

The man, marries a new.hotmyoung wife, 40 years his junior.

The man dies.

The woman remarries, again, a much younger man.

She dies, the man remarries.

And so on.

What is the family dynamic here? Is it all one long chain of the same couple?

What if we have kids involved. Not like, imbreeding, but the same process starting a generation removed. Are the many times removed couples step parents or step inlaws or anything to the generstion down couples?

[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 hours ago

I think a couple is between 2 people, so if one of them leaves or dies it's a completely different couple.

However, what about a polycule? is it the same polycule if everyone who was there at first leaves?

[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

If your parent dies and your step parent remarries there isn’t a familial line involved in my experience. Like their new partner doesn’t become your quarter parent.

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

It's a shame so many people don't want to raise their quarter children. Deadbeats.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago

*quarter deadbeats

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[-] morto@piefed.social 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Now we need to take the original phrases and rebuild the first version of the article elsewhere. Then we will ask ourselves which one is the same ship of theseus article

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Can we justify creating a separate "Original Ship of Theseus" page for demonstration value?

[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago
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[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago

Honest question if anyone has tried this in that who I am when I signed a contract is not the same person as I am now therefore any contract should be invalid no? Or are we acknowledging that a "soul" supercedes everything?

It's an interesting thing I'm sure someone has tried to raise with a lawyer. I mean eventually all our cells are replaced naturally in our body right?

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