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submitted 1 week ago by Sunshine@piefed.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Signal is drawing a hard line on the federal government’s proposed surveillance legislation: comply with Bill C-22 or leave the country. The secure messaging app says it would rather ditch the Canadian market than be forced to weaken the privacy protections it has built its reputation on. In an interview with The Globe and Mail

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[-] Schwim@lemmy.zip 74 points 1 week ago

It's refreshing to see this because it's so rare that there's any real pushback to the global race of countries attempting to strip their citizens of any remaining scrap of privacy.

[-] tumblechinchilla@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago

Yup. Seems to be a global fad of saying fuck privacy you need a face scan to communicate. Fuck them and fuck that.

[-] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago

Which means we probably need to dig deeper because the reason will either be Canada is not paying enough or some other country compromised signal already and is refusing to allow Canada to also do it

[-] tumblechinchilla@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Emailed my MP. Wrote out a slew of issues this bill has. Do it. Dont go oh i should do that, or I will later, im talking to YOU reading this. Because i am you. I procrastinate. I tell myself others will fight against this.

Have you looked south of the border recently? Hows that going for them?

Web search your MP. Write the damn email. We need to get off our lazy asses and speak up. Step by step they will strip our privacy away until every digital interaction will be tied to your SIN. To your face.

Update with her response.
Our government has been clear that lawful access measures are to ensure that law enforcement and CSIS have the tools they need to protect Canadians. This includes strengthening their ability to investigate and disrupt organized crime networks and respond to serious threats to public safety. Currently, Canada is the only country among the Five Eyes and G7 that does not have modern lawful access legislation, making us reliant on international partners like the United-States for critical information. The Canadian government believes it is time for Canadian law enforcement to have an updated, made-in-Canada solution to effectively counter criminal and national security threats. With Bill C-22, law enforcement will have the tools they have consistently called for to combat serious crimes such as child sexual exploitation, extortion, human trafficking, and money laundering. When law enforcement and public safety officials told us what they needed to better protect Canadians, we listened. This legislation works to remove existing barriers that can delay or hinder investigations and helps keep our communities safe. We are moving forward with legislative changes in Bill C-22 to ensure that law enforcement and intelligence professionals have the tools they need to address serious crimes, while continuing to uphold Canadian values. We are confident that Bill C-22 addresses those gaps in previous legislations in a thoughtful and balanced way. Our government remains committed to working with all parties like CSIS and the RCMP, as well as a broad range of stakeholders, to ensure we are responding effectively to the calls from police and public safety experts on lawful access. A strong government listens and delivers for Canadians—and that is exactly what we are doing to keep Canadians safe. Thank you again for contacting our office. Please do not hesitate to reach out if you have any additional questions or concerns. Sincerely, The Office of MP Giovanna Mingarelli

[-] ZombieBait@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Any chance you could share that list of issues to help others with their letters? I feel like including something like that helps to get the letters noticed.

[-] ashughes@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

I don't personally have a list but this OpenMedia.ca campaign page is probably a good starting point.

[-] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago

I just did my part, this bill can't be allowed to pass.

Well done fellow human. Well done. Thank you for taking the time to be a part of it all.

[-] bluejade@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 week ago

can more canadians please let your mps know you're not into having backdoors in supposedly secure platforms that criminals would take advantage of?

[-] tumblechinchilla@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

I emailed my MP of ontario. This is bullshit and i expect better from our elected reps.

[-] Mpatch@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes this should definitely concern dougiee

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

This just in, Canada post and other mail providers will now be opening all envelopes and packages sent. All contents will be scanned or photographed and held on file for 2 years time, and released to relevant authorities upon request of investigation. To make things easier please do not seal packages or envelopes for easier and more convenient access.

All photos and scanned documents will be held in a highly secured database with easy backdoors access!

Pretty much the equivalent in terms of what Canada wants to implement with access to signal chats, VPN logs, and asking ISPs to keep logs for 1-2 years minimum.

[-] Canuck@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago

The public safety minister is a fucking nimwit, like a lot of the other Liberal cabinet ministers. Only a few of them seem to be actually competent at their jobs

Agreed. He has no idea the repercussions this will have. These companies cant even keep operational data safe. What chance do these year long surveillance records have ?

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

That's to be expected, they are politicians. Their 'career' is made entirely of telling people not to do the things that they do until they can buy enough boats and cottages to retire.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Brilliant shit. I too am looking forward to moving my family to a self-hosted alternative. /s

[-] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 10 points 1 week ago

While it's nice to see Signal push back for us .... I will be really disappointed if I can't use Signal in the future.

[-] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

You’ll probably be able to use it. Will just have to jump through. Signal just has to do basic ip restrictions. You can bypass with VPN.

[-] binux@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

The more pathetic decisions governments push worldwide like this, the more I start to feel like we're still in the middle ages. Of course the difference being now all the power-hungry degenerates know just how much to wring out of the lowly civilians without letting them figure out who to blame.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

It's worse. We've gotten some hard earned concessions from the ruling class, especially from labour organizing resurgence around the Great Depression, and they've been rolling back since the 70s. We're backsliding from legitimate gains.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

While we all have computer walkie-talkies connected to the questionable ether, human nature has never changed.

[-] binux@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Oh I agree completely. People tend to not realize that we’re still biologically identical to Humans from over 100 000 years ago aside from the odd irrelevant difference. Nothing’s really changed in that regard.

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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I too have herpes. That's all I can think of when I read simplex.

[-] ToffeeIsForClosers@piefed.ca 6 points 1 week ago

Encrusted chats on account of the cold sores around the mouth.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Genital Simplex.

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