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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 18 points 3 weeks ago
[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Um is there anything to know? Jira is a basic CRUD app that's backed by reasonably good deployment, operations, marketing, sales, and low enough prices for smaller plans that people don't bother to self-host their own alternative. But it doesn't seem mysterious how it works.

[-] addie@feddit.uk 18 points 3 weeks ago

Jira is just part of Atlassian's offerings. You've got the second-rate Wikipedia knock-off that is Confluence, the will-it-won't-it play video hosting of Loom, and BitBucket with its bizarrely awful API performance and rate limits for a Git host. Admittedly, I used to think that BB presented pull requests in a more reviewable way than eg. GitHub, but they're abandoned the things that made it distinctive in exchange for the follow-the-leader approach, so now it's just a less-good GH. And I don't say that lightly, it's a low bar to limbo under.

In fact, I kind of prefer managing tickets via post-its on a whiteboard then using Jira, as it actually allows you to see everything important at a glance, and micromanaging middle management don't get to set up bizarre and wonky workflows and rules, and a thousand bullshit fields to fill in on every ticket.

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I haven't watched the video, but two things I wonder:

  • Surely he signed an agreement when he was hired promising they could hit him with an enormous lawsuit if he ever spilled "muh trade secrits." I'm wondering how he got away with this unless all he's sharing is public info.
  • Is anything Atlassian has done really that non-obvious that anyone couldn't just reproduce (or improve on) it from scratch just given some thinking and elbow grease? (Like, Confluence is a glorified WYSIWIG editor. Bamboo is Jenkins slightly spiffed up so it doesn't still feel like something straight out of 1991. And Jira can be easily procured by anyone willing to travel to hell and request the next steaming shit Satan takes.)
[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago

I was curious about the NDA bit as well, but I guess it's the sort of stuff you'd talk about in a tech interview as well. He's not revealing any deep secrets there. And while none of this stuff is necessarily rocket science, it is always interesting to see how big companies structure stuff that needs to run at scale. A lot of this stuff gets figured out through trial and error, and you can save some time by learning what worked for others.

[-] thingsiplay@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Any company seeing this video will avoid hiring him.

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

Alternatively, it's basically an advertisement for any company that wants to spin up this sort of infrastructure fast.

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