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[-] leoj@piefed.social 311 points 2 weeks ago

But keeping a jet aircraft from another nation is totally ok... got it :)

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 156 points 2 weeks ago

One of the most sensible things I’ve seen from the administration.

Kinda surprised Trump was OK with it tbh…

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 172 points 2 weeks ago

Oh you know he didnt have to throw his special gifts away..,

[-] leoj@piefed.social 76 points 2 weeks ago

Right? I was gonna say, there is no way he isn't keeping is 44k gold plated listening device.

[-] vpol@feddit.uk 32 points 2 weeks ago
[-] db2@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

China called him out by having a bunch of little kids cheering, the kids were the only group he stopped to be creepy at.

[-] vpol@feddit.uk 9 points 2 weeks ago
[-] emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me 12 points 2 weeks ago

I love/hate that we even have to ask.

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[-] JamieDub86@piefed.social 30 points 2 weeks ago

Probably had to tie him down cause he thought that they loved him so much.

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[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 134 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like the US use gifts, pins and burner phones to spy on foreign governments

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 56 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, there is a history of a lot of nations doing this.

[-] sartalon@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago

My brother-in-law traveled a lot for work, from the early nineties, to the 20-teens.

He visited, China, Russia, the U.S., India, all over Southeast Asia, Australia. Maybe South America, but not sure. Anyway, the point is he visited a lot of places, and the big ones fairly routinely. China is the only country, where his company had a whole list of requirements. He had to leave his personal phone, any personal electronics, and his work laptop at home. (They provided him a phone and laptop that would immediately be turned over once he returned and he could NOT log onto the company VPN with the laptop/phone they gave him and had to have his work email forwarded. )

They gave him money to buy a new suit before he went over there and to replace his luggage and clothes when he came back, because it was all discarded.

He said it was not so much government spying but industrial espionage. And he just worked in human resources.

I was in the Navy and visited Hong Kong a couple of times and they never said boo to me outside of the usual, "Loose lips sink ships." spiel we got at every port.

They let him take his phone to Russia, but they did made him take a different work laptop, but that laptop could access the company VPN. He said there is was more about the government spying. I did not visit any Russian port while in the Navy.

[-] kahnclusions@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

My past few employers have all had similar policies, it’s common in tech. I cannot take any company equipment over the Chinese border and we are strongly discouraged against bringing any personal equipment. The company has special burner laptops and phones for the few cases where we actually need a business trip to China.

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[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

That’s well known. We even did that with the original iPod back in the day.

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[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 97 points 2 weeks ago

The Chinese probably gave them normal gifts, pins, and phones because why waste money on tech when top secret files are stored in the bathroom and POTUS tweets sensitive information?

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[-] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 85 points 2 weeks ago

I assume China (or any other government) can get top secret intel by simply bribing Trump and asking him.

[-] orenj@leminal.space 17 points 2 weeks ago

what a upsetting thing to be nodding my head to. god i wish i had a president with dignity

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 54 points 2 weeks ago

Uh duh? Pretty normal procedure when visiting foreign governments.

However the problem isn't the support staff, it's the moron leaders that are the problem. I bet 100 bucks that Trump kept at least a gift that contains a spy equipment.

[-] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

Him? Keep gifts that almost certainly contain spy equipment? He'd never do that. Certainly not giant, 747 sized ones.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 weeks ago

MAGA's dear leader is the spy equipment

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[-] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 53 points 2 weeks ago

Trump probably thinks he’s above the rules, so of course he’d want to keep the solid gold microphone Xi gave him with the plaque that says “The Greatest Speeches Ever.”

He probably thinks it would look great on his desk.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 44 points 2 weeks ago

Throw away air force one and the president while you are at it.

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[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago

I have $20 that says Drumpf keeps some tacky piece of shit with a bug in it

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure this is SOP. At least, it was before these idiots took over.

Not sure why this is news, unless this didn’t occur to these morons before now and they think it’s a Very Good, Big Brain Idea™ that was obvious to literally everyone else.

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[-] Bahnd@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Yah... Duh... Thats how espionage works...

China would tell their diplomats to do the same returning from the US.

[-] vegeta@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

Throw Away = give them all to Trump

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[-] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No shit? Them and every other country with resources does the same. They even send vendors and HUMINT collectors to all sorts of conferences all year round trying to pass off devices and keep tabs on trends. Collecting in their home country is just expected. The weak links are the idiots that don’t take it seriously, sneak a personal device on a trip that they lose sight of at any point or even just become too close in proximity to a collector and then carry it back home with an exploited device and credentials.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago

I know people are reacting like its expected anyway because of the amount of espionage that goes on, but this is honestly more of a cold war era tactic.

Why would China risk souring relations right after a major diplomatic trip with some throw away gadgets that any competent military security would find immediately and proceed to document it?

China can just get that high level information via a million other ways including Trump himself. They probably have a truthsocial scrapper that automatically tells them exactly what Trump is gonna do next by deciphering his insane posts lol.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago

For trump China does not need any secret spying devices. They know his motivation. They just need to flash their bankroll.

[-] Delascas@feddit.uk 18 points 2 weeks ago

Ironic . . as I use a burner phone when traveling to the USA.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

Shit like this used to happen informally, and quietly. Now it's splashed all over the internet, only because someone wanted it to be.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Why throw them away?

Good counterintelligence would be to get as many as possible and reverse engineer them.

[-] deathbird@mander.xyz 29 points 2 weeks ago

I wouldn't be surprised if we fired everybody who could do that.

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[-] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Seems a bit extreme. Its not like they were vising israel

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