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[-] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 167 points 2 weeks ago

They'll do this but refuse to support renewable energy

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 44 points 2 weeks ago

Well yeah, their entire lives have been spent sucking oil dick, their entire foundation of their wealth is tied up in oil, and even though they're rich enough to pivot entirely and never feel a difference in their lives, they're stuck in the sunk cost mentality.

It's too risky to invest in a brand new industry that's on shaky legs. Never mind that it stopped being a "new" industry decades ago and has proven it will do quite well, and is thriving. They stopped paying attention to real life many many decades ago. As far as they are concerned, they didn't have to do any sort of personal growth, so they are woefully out of touch with reality.

Oil is what was there when they (or their parents they inherited wealth from) were kids, so obviously they have to dig their heels in to keep oil from flopping. Anything else is secondary.

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[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Just wait until they try to dilute your electricity down to 100V. /s

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[-] akilou@sh.itjust.works 114 points 2 weeks ago

However, while the E15 rollout can lower prices, ethanol does contains less energy than gasoline, so eventually with E15, a driver will end up burning more fuel for the same amount of distance, albeit fuel which is slightly cheaper than standard gasoline.

MAGAs are dumb enough to think they're getting some kind of deal

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

"I used to only fit $50 of gas in my truck, now I can fit $100. Lol checkmate libs"

[-] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 weeks ago

Ethanol also rots the internal works of your vehicle so vehicles will disintegrate and people will be forced to buy new vehicles in 2027+ which will all have mandatory big brother spyware.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 weeks ago

Most vehicles made past about 2004 are all ethanol safe up to maybe E20. You ideally shouldn't, but e15 won't ruin them.

Anything older though... God have mercy on your soul.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

Those '90s civics still puttering around finally gonna get put in the grave.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 weeks ago

They'd probably just go through a fuel pump and a fresh filter and then be fine lol.

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[-] InputZero@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Dude you could run those things off dirty vegetable oil and they'd still go. The only things more indestructible than a '90s Civic is a Corolla from any year.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Or a Hilux. Or a 90s Nokia.

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[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 54 points 2 weeks ago

Republicans vote to hide their fuckup at a cost to the American people

[-] P1k1e@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Soulphite@reddthat.com 43 points 2 weeks ago

Everyone else votes to dilute Republicans.

You can't make this shit up....

[-] green_goglin 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Real benefit: Combustion motor life cycle shortened enhancing planned obsolescence for manufacturer product cycles and future sales. Diluted gas is less efficient and despite paying less you’re actually paying more both near and long term. So much winning.

[-] ClownStatue@piefed.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Fortunately, us Americans suck at math. A consequence of our “world class” public education.

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[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If America was a person on a raft dying of thirst then we're at the part where they start gulping down ocean water.

[-] backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 22 points 2 weeks ago

MAGA started drinking the ocean water a long time ago because woke lib science told them it was dangerous.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"dumb libruls what u think gatoraids is? it be same thing huh huh"

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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

Water down the gas, then contaminate the water with in a AI data center. Art of the deal! We will be so much winning you might get tried of all the winner! 🫲🍊🫱

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[-] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 weeks ago

This also increases pollution

[-] NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago

If you ask yourself “which option causes more pollution?” about nearly any policy, you’ll get the entire Republican platform

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago

This is literally the exact same kind of thing as USSR-aligned countries would do in the 80s. Back then it was "stupid communism", but today it's "glorious capitalism".

They support pollution and money. They can't make money off renewable energy.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

They absolutely can, just not as much, and not in the ways they're used to. They've invested heavily in oil based products up to and including fighting many many wars as well as shaping their entire international policy around it.

They could pivot to renewables, something several Democrats started the process of doing, but until the pivot completes their profits would take a nose dive (plus the massive losses from the heavy investment into oil refineries). Even then though the unfortunate crux of the matter is that rare earth metals are an increasingly vital component of all future technology and the biggest deposits of those are all very inconveniently placed from a US perspective (almost exclusively within the territory of countries the US has a somewhat poor relationship with).

[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 26 points 2 weeks ago

So the GQPedos plan is to use more ethanol, something they've been whining about for decades. Meanwhile, the Dems are trying to cut the (hasn't been inflation adjusted in 30 years) gas tax to further screw over the future AND help their opponents in an election year. USA! USA! USA!

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[-] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You know it's pretty neat they can use shrinkflation on gasoline sold by the gallon, i didn't know that was possible!

[-] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

Capitalism breeds innovation after all!

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

This is stupid. You have to use so much fucking gas to farm those fields. It just adds to the load.

[-] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

And you simply end up buying more gas because it's less efficient if your car doesn't take it. So demand will actually increase. Which makes sense when you realize whose in charge.

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[-] Keilik@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

I don’t think many people on here are into classic cars much, but if they allow more ethanol in gas that’s going to fuck up a pretty large amount of classic cars. Modern fuel lines are plastic to deal with the ethanol and impact resistance. before that we used rubber, and the current widely used (cheap) replacement fuel hose tolerates ethanol at the levels we had well enough for a few years.

So there’s a decent chance this would burn down a bunch of cars (and boats) when the fuel lines dissolve from the ethanol and start spilling gas.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

It's not just classic cars, cars from the 2000s have rubber fuel lines as well.

[-] Zulu@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Oh lord. Are 2000s cars classic cars now? Someone take me out back and shoot me.

[-] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

In this economy? Bullets aren't free.

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

You can just mill around with the rest of us.

[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 7 points 2 weeks ago

My state's rule:

As used in this section, "historical motor vehicle" means any motor vehicle that is more than twenty-five years old and that ...

So a 2000 or 2001 model year car would count now.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

If you own a classic car and aren’t running ethanol free gas (it exists) then you are a bad car owner.

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[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea dilution will also destroy our gas engines and force people into buying pedo welfare queen Elon’s teslas

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, in the EU there's a law that petrol has to be 10% non-fossil energy for 95 and 5% for 98 IIRC. Now, most stations skirt by it by producing "green" natural gas or just buying clean energy certificates or whatever it is they do, but when the law came out, there was a big deal because it turns out a lot of older cars aren't cleared for E10. I imagine even fewer are for E15.

It's not so much that it'd kill the engine. That's unlikely to happen for MOST engines. What it will do is destroy the fuel hoses. And if you have a stupid early direct injection petrol engine with a membrane based high pressure fuel pump (fuck you, GM! I think a few others used that design too though), that pump's not gonna like ethanol. If the high pressure fuel pump fails and your engine runs lean, that might indeed kill an engine though.

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[-] BeUnique@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

So.. voting to create the illusion of lower gas prices while not increasing miles per gallon?... I hate it here...

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like a good way to ruin an engine.

My vehicle will take E85 and I've tried it just to save money. Stick with regular gasoline what you save at the pump will cost you in far more refills. Horrible gas mileage

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Fucking assholes.

[-] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 8 points 2 weeks ago

this act of central planning brought to you by the party of Free Markets(TM)

you're very welcome and your gratitude may be registered in certain pre-approved ways

FREEDOM

[-] JamieDub86@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

USA gas? Its already shite.

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