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This is why people keep getting hacked
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Looks like Gam Gam is becoming a liability.
Wife and kids had no problem; they hate people listening to their chats. A couple of slightly paranoid friends came along.
You want to sell it? Tell them all those creepy ads that know too much about them are from Apple/Android chat apps that can listen.
Signal sucks, tho. Use Session instead. Or SimpleX. Or Delta Chat. Or Matrix...
Why?
Biggest criticism of signal is requiring a phone number imo
Gam gam survived the depression.
Someone who is 92 in 2026 was born about 1934. The Great Depression persisted (in the U.S. at least) until about 1940. So she definitely survived some early childhood years during the Depression.
But goddamn are we getting close to the point where the surviving elders are way way more likely to not have been around during the Depression than to have been.
I was able to get my family to move to signal but that was because they were already on WhatsApp.
This is a shitpost but some people are taking it a bit too seriously, a family group chat doesn’t have to risk profile to require a level of “OpSec” that would require everyone to be on e2ee messaging. Don’t isolate yourself from your family over MMS group chat messages, maybe just don’t share your IBS flare ups in it if you are that concerned.
Yes, you do. Because we live in an era where Uber driver or nurse pay is based on surveillance: the more desperate they are, the lower the payment offered for the trip or the shift. Because we're facing surveillance pricing also, where surveillance is going to compute how much you're ready or desperate to pay for something, regardless its cost, and that might be higher than your reighbour's result. Because we live in an era where abortion is banned in multiple places and who know what else will be later, after one of your relative will have told you what will become a confession?
So yes, you do give a damn, and no you don't talk over corporate surveillance networks as much as you can avoid them.
My whole family is on signal. How did I get them there? I didn't. Didn't even talk about it. They just popped up, one by one, over the years. Unfortunately we don't celebrate thanksgiving :(
You are so lucky.
Never too late for a new tradition!
Imagine planning Thanksgiving without proper opsec 🙄🤦♂️
The Wampanoag tried, and see what happened to them.
He's responding to his mom on iMessage! Can you believe that shit? 😡
I live in the Netherlands so everyone uses Whatsapp. Which is worse than just SMS, even if SMS is less secure. Giving your data willingly to the Zuck is beyond stupid. I setup Whatsapp Business to send an autoreply that says that I'm on Signal if they want to contact me. Almost no one switches over and they just send me a SMS message. To be honest I don't care, I'm just glad that I'm not part of many family group chats anymore.
So many of my kids' activities have a WhatsApp group for the parents to discuss upcoming games, practices and snack schedules. I always catch some flack for refusing to install zuck's spyware on my phone.
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Can't fault their logic tbf
Yeah, gotta keep the government from listening in on the Thanksgiving plans. 🙄
Exactly. I just know they're going to use my love of turkey against me somehow.
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Unless they are going to talk about nuclear cooked turkeys, he could just set up a burner VM and communicate through that and a vpn. That's what I do when going to sketchy sites.
luckily I got my mom on signal for about 3 years now
My poor family has to reach me on Briar.
Granny did the risk assessment and decided that ease of use and low-maintenance is more important than security when it comes to everyday family matters.
Not everyone ends in jail when they fuck up their opsec. Granny doesn't run an online cocaine business.
Signal is hardly difficult to use tho. It's just another messaging app
Granny doesn't run an online cocaine business.
... or does she ?
She actually does, but cares about opsec there, so word hasn't gotten out that it's her.
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dear god, the ruskies are gonna know about the thanksgiving plans.
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The guy kinda sounds like a douche..
No, Gam Gam must adapt.
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Whenever people start talking about "opsec" and it's not people doing sensitive work I'm just like "what ops?"
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This is an obvious joke yall
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I was talking about something similar the other day, about people who "don't read sms", and I absolutely don't get it. This (Gam Gam) is the same: how the fuck do you manage to use Whatsapp, or any other messaging app, and not another? They're essentially the same! Apart from not having the old chat history, there's no difference! It's just mental laziness, IMO.
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Just stick to XMPP for encrypted coms. It's the original WhatsApp ( same Protocol before it was centralised and owned by world gov.)
ou can run your own server too.
You may even transfer and generate phone numbers paid with Monero on some clients.
AMA
WhatsApp originally used a modified version of XMPP, but not the standard protocol. When Facebook acquired WhatsApp, they replaced XMPP with the open source Signal Protocol for end-to-end encryption (E2EE), the golden privacy standard.
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