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This is why people keep getting hacked (thelemmy.club)
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Microblog post: "Family won't move our group chat to signal. Had to leave. Here comes the guilt trip ๐Ÿ˜’". Screenshot of a iMessage conversation with a contact named Mom: "Please come back to the group chat. We are making thanksgiving plans and we need your input." - "As I said in the group chat, you shouldn't be using iMessage. Signal is better Opsec. Once everyone starts taking that seriously you know where to find me." - "Gam Gam is 92. She barely knows how to use the phone she has." - "She needs to adapt"
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[โ€“] 66 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Right. Look, I want people moving to more independent services too, but I know that sometimes you have to meet people where they are. I keep Meta accounts because sometimes I need to see family pictures or engage with some random FB group.

You can work on getting people to try things and adapt without just going "Fuck you, you do it my way or not at all."

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  • [โ€“] 19 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I mean, if they were somehow forcing them all to move the group chat, sure. That might be a valid argument then.

    But as it is, it seems they simply left the group chat, and said "if you want me in it, move it to signal."

    That's not forcing anyone to do anything. That's setting a boundary. The people trying to pressure OOP into using software they don't trust are the only ones trying to force anything.

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    Isn't MK in this scenario doing the same thing? Trying to put pressure on their family to use a piece of software they don't know and aren't comfortable using?

    I mean yeah, MK's take is more informed, but sides are likely to see it as the other side trying to get them to cave.

    Anyway. Rereading, "Signal is better opsec" when your 92yo grandmother wants to plan Thanksgiving is cracking me up.

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  • [โ€“] 7 points 5 months ago

    I think they're more saying they won't participate in an imessage group chat. Which would ordinarily be fine. It's only strange in this case because they're still using imessage.

    Anyway. Rereading, "Signal is better opsec" when your 92yo grandmother wants to plan Thanksgiving is cracking me up.

    If palantir knows who's bringing the stuffing, what else do they know about you and your family?

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  • [โ€“] 13 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    "I only support a genocidal wannabe oligarch who actively uses his pet propaganda network to directly influence elections and policy across the globe in an effort to bring back feudalism because not doing so would be mildly inconvenient" isn't exactly the hot take you think it is tbh.

    If you kept using Facebook services after Cambridge Analytica then you are part of the problem, period.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    No...

    No.

    I'm tired of being consistently correct and it taking other people a decade to figure that out.

    Fuck you, you do it my way or not at all.

    I'm an introvert, I'll be fine without you.

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Also conceding ground just gives the powers of evil what they want. If more than one person in the group chat got insistent then that would be a lot more leverage. If the majority decide it was time to move the move has already happened and the ones who haven't moved are the ones who are being obnoxious and sticking to a different app

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  • [โ€“] 3 points 5 months ago

    Everything is horrible and awful, but trying to hold my own friends and family accountable for their own actions?

    Well that's just rude, unreasonable!

    ... It's genuinely comical how hypocritical, how turbolib coded it is, to offer any defense whatsoever for a person to continue engaging in a harmful practice when the alternative already exists and works and takes maybe 90 seconds to switch over to, at literally no monetary cost.

    Everyone is wrong and dumb, except the people in my immediate proximity, they're just misunderstood!

    Fucking spare me.

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