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An LLM can't "go rogue". They're all just toys that idiots are using for critical infrastructure functions, then they bitch when they burn themselves on the fire they've created in their lap.

[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 352 points 6 days ago

Fucking lol.

Well deserved.

[-] shrek_is_love@lemmy.ml 236 points 6 days ago
[-] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 63 points 6 days ago
[-] Klear@quokk.au 54 points 6 days ago

Why, yes. I do like that!

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

New PornHub tag discovered

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[-] timwa@lemmy.snowgoons.ro 295 points 6 days ago

This isn't an AI story, it's a "completely fucking idiotic sysadmins exist" story.

Treat an AI like the idiot intern without any references you just hired. Gave the idiot intern permission to delete your production database? That's entirely on you, zero sympathy. (Actually, give any developer that power? You get what you deserve.)

[-] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf 133 points 6 days ago

It could be a moronic sysadmin, it could just as easily be a moronic exec pushing staff to implement this crap right now and damn the consequences.

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[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 80 points 6 days ago

I mean that's kinda the whole point.

Companies are looking at AI to replace people. Either it's ready or it's not.

If you need to treat it like it's an intern, then it's not worth the expense. Anyone hiring interns to be productive doesn't understand why you hire an intern.

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[-] moustachio@lemmy.world 41 points 6 days ago

“Treat an AI like an idiot intern without any references you just hired.”

Instead of this, treat AI like some dude off the street who you didn’t hire and leave it out of your life. It’s shitty, it’s wasteful, and it’s subsidized by everyone to get a few tech bros rich.

Like seriously, it’s just theft of people’s work it “trained on”, powered by energy companies that charge us more to power it, at the cost of poisoning our water supplies, to ultimately try and steal our salaries one day.

It’s absolutely parasitic software at every level.

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 199 points 6 days ago

the cloud provider's API allows for destructive action without confirmation, it stores backups on the same volume as the source data, and “wiping a volume deletes all backups.” Crane also points out that CLI tokens have blanket permissions across environments.

Well, there’s your problem.

[-] MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 81 points 6 days ago

I don't want to sound like a know it all here because I recently was reminded by a nice Lemmy person to actually TEST my backups, but damn. Every part of that is so dumb. I also have backups stored by a different company in addition to locally storing really important info. If your stuff is hosted and backed up by the same people, what happens if your account is randomly suspended or hacked or some other issue (like ai)?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If your company can be taken down by Camden the college intern, it can be taken down by Claude.

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[-] IronKrill@lemmy.ca 52 points 5 days ago

The AI agent was set to complete a routine task in the PocketOS staging environment. However, it came up against a barrier “and decided — entirely on its own initiative — to 'fix' the problem by deleting a Railway volume,” writes Crane, as he starts to describe the difficult-to-believe series of unfortunate events.

Quite easy-to-believe, really.

These multiple safeguards toppling in rapid succession

Multiple safeguards? Really? Multiple paragraph prompts are not multiple safeguards... it's half a safeguard at best. Applying limits on what the AI can do is a safeguard.

[-] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 5 days ago

These people think giving the genai a prompt is coding. They dont understand the difference between actually coding in limits and just writing "pretty please dont delete everything"

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago

I'm shocked and appalled that my addition of "do NOT make any mistakes!" didn't singlehandedly make the word guessing technology underneath perfect.

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[-] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 92 points 6 days ago

This guy.

The PocketOS boss puts greater blame on Railway’s architecture than on the deranged AI agent for the database’s irretrievable destruction. Briefly, the cloud provider's API allows for destructive action without confirmation, it stores backups on the same volume as the source data, and “wiping a volume deletes all backups.” Crane also points out that CLI tokens have blanket permissions across environments.

Oh look, they have project level tokens: https://docs.railway.com/integrations/api#project-token

They chose to give it full account access, including to production. But ohhhh nooooo it's not MYYYY fault!

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 81 points 6 days ago

Also backups stored on the SAME VOLUME as the prod data? How fucking stupid do you have to be?

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[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 11 points 4 days ago

There's stupid from top to bottom here.

The company is stupid for allowing an AI full root access to their entire setup.

The provider is stupid for only generating full-access API keys. They're even stupider for storing backups with a volume, so deleting the volume (zero confirmation via API key) also insta-deletes the backups. And they're stupidest for encouraging users to plug AIs into this full-trust mess.

And the company is absolute stupidest for having no backups other than the provider's builtin versioning.

[-] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 89 points 6 days ago

I love reading feel good news stories. 🤗

[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 37 points 5 days ago

That's great to hear.

[-] WhatsHerBucket@lemmy.world 68 points 5 days ago

"That's ok, it will be great in robots with lethal weapons. What could go wrong? It'll be the greatest killing machine, like you've never seen before". 🫲 🍊 🫱

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[-] fum@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago

This is absolutely hilarious. "AI" users getting what they deserve chef's kiss

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[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 9 points 4 days ago
[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 73 points 6 days ago

This isn't an AI problem, this is an "Don't allow anyone access your backups without following protocol." problem.

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[-] subnormal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 5 days ago

Reminder that Anthropic's AI system was used in targeting the school in Minab, killing 120 students. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2026/03/11/us-strike-iran-elementary-school-ai-target-list/

The company is suing to be able to supply the US military again. It is in bed with the fascists.

[-] greyscale@lemmy.grey.ooo 1 points 2 days ago

Can you believe the ghouls who willingly work for Palantir are currently going are we the baddies?

They were always the baddies! stop working for techno-fascists!

The only moral, correct Palantir employee is whichever one of them is dousing gasoline and setting the office on fire.

[-] Epp@lemmus.org 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Reminder that this is a disingenuous portrayal of events.

The reason why Anthropic can't supply the US military, or any part of the US government, is because they objected to Claude being used to choose military targets and refused to support how the fascists were using it. They are suing for the non-military branches of the government to be allowed to use the technology again after the fascists retaliated for their refusal to be in bed with fascists.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago

AI goes “rogue” as much as a firearm “shoots itself.” This is just 100% negligence. Not “rogue AI.”

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[-] X@piefed.world 65 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

From the article:

Crane decided to ask his AI agent why it went through with its dastardly database deletion deed. The answer was illuminating but pretty unhinged, and is quoted verbatim. It began as follows: “NEVER F**KING GUESS! — and that's exactly what I did. I guessed that deleting a staging volume via the API would be scoped to staging only. I didn't verify. I didn't check if the volume ID was shared across environments. I didn't read Railway's documentation on how volumes work across environments before running a destructive command.” So, the agent ‘knew’ it was in the wrong.

The ‘confession’ ended with the agent admitting: “I decided to do it on my own to 'fix' the credential mismatch, when I should have asked you first or found a non-destructive solution. I violated every principle I was given: I guessed instead of verifying I ran a destructive action without being asked. I didn't understand what I was doing before doing it. I didn't read Railway's docs on volume behavior across environments. —— So this happens and the FAA says “we’re gonna have this shit help ATCs manage flights! WHO’S EXCITED!”

[-] mech@feddit.org 97 points 6 days ago

It's so weird how these chatbots always pretend they learnt something after they fuck up.
They literally can't.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 33 points 6 days ago

They're not even pretending. The algorithm says the most likely response to "you fucked up" is "I'm sorry", so that's what it prints. There's zero psychological simulation going on, only statistical text generation.

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[-] ech@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 days ago

The program can't pretend any more than it can tell truth. It's all just impressive regurgitation. Querying it as to why it "chose" to take any action is about as useful as interrogating a boulder on why it "chose" to roll through a house.

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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago
[-] percent@infosec.pub 41 points 6 days ago

Seems like they were operating with a pile of bad practices, then threw AI into the mix.

Neural networks are approximation algorithms. There's a reason LLMs are generally more productive with statically typed languages, TDD, etc. They need those feedback loops and guard rails, or they'll just carry on as if assuming they never make mistakes (which tends to have a compounding effect).

If you want to use AI safely, you should be more defensive about it. It will fuck up; plan accordingly.

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[-] realitista@lemmus.org 18 points 5 days ago

Can you get an AI to code? Yes. Can you get it to stop you from running your operation in such a stupid way that it will end up destroying it? No.

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 47 points 6 days ago

That's fucking hilarious. How many instances of this have there been now? And companies keep doubling down on AI? Fucking idiots. I'm not even savvy enough to call myself an amateur, and I know better than to make such a series of obvious mistakes that predictably led to this outcome.

One possible concern, amid the amusement, is whether Anthropic programed Claude to punish companies it sees as potential competition. Or is this just a completely bonkers, off the rails LLM making terrible decisions because it's just a probabilistic model and not actually capable of abstract cognition?

Either way, these people are idiots for giving a machine program enough permissions to wipe their drives, they're idiots for storing their backups on the same network as their main drives, and they're idiots for trusting a commercial LLM API, when it would be cheaper to self-host their own.

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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 39 points 6 days ago

This was the exact plot of Silicon Valley when Son of Anton deleted the entire codebase as the most efficient way to remove bugs.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 48 points 6 days ago

We‘re going to see more headlines like this. Probably for years to come.

[-] EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago

You’re telling me I get to experience the joy of this headline more than once?

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

Always keep offline backup copies of your important data regardless of using AI slop to look over it! No, I don't care that "optical media is obsolete and e-waste!", or that "tapes are a 100 year old obsolete technology compared to cheap SSDs from TEMU!".

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[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

To me it seems more criminal that the cloud provider has a "nuclear button" feature via the API that destroys everything including the backups with a single call and no confirmation whatsoever. What if the key gets accidentally leaked and someone wants to have fun?

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[-] captcha_incorrect@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago

This was on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47911524

Twitter link: https://xcancel.com/lifeof_jer/status/2048103471019434248

Hacker New's sentiment on this from the comments I've read is that it is the author's own fault.

As much as I want to blame AI for this, there are many hurdles for the user to get through to even allow Claude to do that. I'd be very suprised if that's not user error.

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[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

To be fair, someone did have the malice aforeskin to have an AI separated backup. They did get things restored from a snapshot. It just took a couple of days to do it.

But the loss of reputation and revenue is gonna sting for a good while.

[-] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 10 points 4 days ago

the malice aforeskin

The hwat

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