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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net to c/balconygardening@slrpnk.net

Hi all! I'm poor. I'm attempting to get my balcony garden started without spending more than 30 dollars. (I'm probably nuts, I know.) It looks like a good chunk of that will be going to a water hose and sink attachment so I don't have to haul a milk jug of water back and forth a hundred times, so I'm hurting a bit on funds for fertilizer. To make matters worse, the landlord says I'm not allowed to compost anywhere in the apartment or on the property. (I would just hide it under my kitchen sink, what she doesn't know won't hurt her etc, but there's other reasons why I can't unfortunately.)

Is there any option for fertilizing my plants with like... five dollars left? If I mix coffee grounds and eggshells into the soil will it do anything other than bother the local slugs? I've seen that stuff about letting plant scraps sit in a bucket to make "tea" but what I read said it can't replace fertilizer - is there a way to make it so that it can?

I have a bag of epsom salts, a strong appetite for veggies, and the willingness to steal the neighbor's lawn clippings if I must.

I'm also willing to accept that I may have to forgo the water hose C:

EDIT: Thank you all for suggestions! Here's what I'm going to try in no particular order:

  • Grass clippings and banana peels in water to make tea
  • Getting a med-free friend to pee in a jar and letting that sit for two months
  • Reach out to local Buy Nothing group and gardening groups to see if someone has leftover fertilizer or compost
  • Steal dirt from local megacorp office to save money on dirt and spend that on fertilizer instead
  • Ask around to see if anyone keeps fish so I can use the aquarium water
  • Reach out to local mushroom farm to see if they'd give me their growing medium
  • Skip the faucet hose and spend the money on some decent cheap fertilizer from Costco
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[-] mote@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 weeks ago

The grass clippings are a good idea and easy - find something porous to hold them in (cheese cloth? a hairnet would work) and a large bucket of water. soak for a week(?) like making tea and you'll have a great nutrient plant water.

If you have any banana peels grind em throw some in the bucket, they have great phosphates and potassium. Probably keep the bucket covered in case mosquitoes. Dispose of the solid matter as appropriate, you don't want algae or mold so make it use it clean it cycles.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I'll give it a try!

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 weeks ago

Coffee grounds and eggshells will go a long way, but they aren’t a substitute for any other augmentation.

I wouldn’t even consider composting in an apartment - the logistics are just too painful in such a small space (and with long composting timelines).

So about the watering - the cheapest thing you could do is get a faucet aerator-to-hose adapter. It screws into the aerator on your sink and lets you screw on any regular garden hose fitting. The down side is that many faucets don’t like seeing back pressure when the faucet is on, so you could damage your faucet if you turn a valve off at the end of the hose. One option is just “don’t turn it off”, or look at a waterbed filling/draining kit. It’s got a sink adapter very similar to the metal one but it lets some water hiss through under pressure.

Another possible fertilizer source would be an all purpose chemical fertilizer from a dollar store. You don’t get much but you also don’t need much. Definitely not as natural as rolling your own compost, but a lot more practical in a small space.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Question - is this what you mean by aerater-to-hose or am I looking at the wrong things? If I can bring the hose cost down then I'll have more for dollar store fertilizer

[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago

Close! This one looks like the right fit: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Danco-Chrome-Female-Standard-Adapter/3647052

That assumes your faucet has an aerator you can unscrew!

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

That piece is available at my local Lowes! Now a new problem. My landlord seems to have glued the aerator to the faucet? That or there's a lot of grime, or it just isn't an aerator, but there's a seam and a lot of sticky gunk. I'm gonna try soaking it in some vinegar, wish me luck XD

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Some municipalities will have programs where you can get free or low cost compost; I'd ask around there, as well as look for local gardening clubs and mutual aid groups to see if anyone has some to spare.

Also, both rabbit and Guinea pig droppings can be pretty good soil additions, if you know anyone who keeps either as companions/fosters or a rescue organization for either.

Also also, if you have any friends who keep fish, the water left over from when they change the water out in their tanks is also nutrient rich

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I second asking around on local forums! Someone might have leftovers lying around, and containers too if you need some.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

Do you know if rat droppings are similar (from pet rats)? I have a friend who fosters rats! I'll ask around and see about the fish

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

From quick research, it seems like even domestic rat droppings can harbor some nasry viruses like hantavirus. You'd want it to be well-composted at sufficient temperatures before use to break down any pathogens, and that unfortunately just brings you back around to the composting problem.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeeeesh. I don't want to fuck around with hantavirus. Oh well!

[-] rainwall@piefed.social 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

$30 is "you need to steal it" territory. Buy a shovel and a bag from a thrift store. Dig up soil near office buildings, ideally mega corps that are assholes.

You can get mulch from the same place. Some munipalities will also drop off free mulch from the tree cleanup they do around power lines. Check your local area to see if they have a program.

You can use this for fertilizer:

https://www.costco.com/p/-/miracle-gro-shake-n-feed-all-purpose-plant-food-8-lb/100411468

Its all purpose and will last years in a balcony garden. Its not tuned to each plants needs, but I can vouch for it working across hundreds of different plants without issue. Shake out the pellets every 3 months of the growing seasons and that's that.

For water, do rain catchment if possible with any old container you have. A large cistern is best, but any container you can seal will do.

Composting is basically not realistic inside. Its rotting food/soil on purpose over sustained periods. Lots of bugs, can be very smelly. Don't recommend.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

I think you're onto something. Soil is so damn expensive and I thought about digging it up from the woods but I don't want to risk disturbing any natural ecosystems. But we all know mega corps ain't natural C:

A friend of mine has a Costco membership, I'll see if they can grab me a cheap thing of Miracle Gro. I'm not too concerning about tuning to each plant, I just want to keep them alive until winter XD thank you!!

(Someone else suggested putting a bucket out for rain... I think I can turn my growing milk jug collection into rain catchers by cutting the tops off and pour them out into a larger container for storage. Though I am a little worried about weight limits... not sure how you figure that out)

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

FWIW, state parks (ie. nature, not playground) often allow transplanting of native plants by locals and are more likely than any corpo fucknuts to not use budget-rate maintenance solutions that'd taint your soil/medium sample (and fuck up your balcony lovelies' roots, etc.), so check your home turf for those rules/laws, and happy scrounging! 🤩

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Mixing in uncomposted material will actually reduce nutrient availability to your plants so I wouldn’t recommend it. I also strongly recommend against indoor composting.

Alternative get a large watering can and carry that, many times, but fewer times. A family member had a huge balcony garden and never ended up with a tap.

If your starting soil is decent, and you don’t over plant, your need for fertilizer is not that high.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago

Spent mushroom grow media should help with adding nutrients to your dirt (With a nice mushroom bonus).

You can look into farming some oyster mushrooms and then after the second flush add that to your soil.

You might need to have a decent size mushroom operation if it is your main source for nutrients however.

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, I know some mushroom farms will just kind of give away their used growing media if you ask. Another resource to check for.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Don't forget to check if they're giving away spores, too 🤩🖖🏼

[-] Oisteink@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe bokashi. If you dont make too much at a time you can do the soil part indoors without smell. And the fermentation is closed lid

[-] Darbage@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

I think a sneaky micro worm farm is the primo solution personally. Landlord be damned.

[-] tae_glas@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

the most i use for container gardening is the same tomato feed for every plant, tbh. you might be able to find a bottle within your budget, and since it'll need to be diluted a lot, it should last a while.

if you want to really go above & beyond, plant-scraps-tea & crushed eggshells etc will top up their nutrients. if you're ever boiling veggies etc in unsalted water, consider letting it cool down & watering your plants with that too.

overall, i try not to go overboard with feeding various nutrients, unless it looks like the plant needs a pick-me-up. it's a lot easier to give them more nutrients when they're too low, than to try to flush out nutrients if they're getting too much of something.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

FWIW, "salting" one's cooking water does fuck-all beyond vibes. The saline levels required to quicken the time it takes to reach boiling, for instance, would make the food prepared in it chemically burn your mouth —with salt. So, bonus! 🤫

No, but seriously. It's physics. 😝

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I always learned that the point of salting water is to infuse salt into whatever you're boiling. It super does not make water boil faster though.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

I completely understand, and yet that too is folklore. 👨🏼‍🍳🤌🏼 Ah well, can't blame the nanas for mostly getting it right, in their own ways. 🙇🏼‍♂️

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

20:1 diluted urine is my first idea, but I've never tested it on house plants (because the salt accumulates and the water does not run off it may be riskier). But it works great for garden plants, tomatoes, cucumbers.

PS: I guss you can shower the plants until water runs if you suspect salt accumulation...

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is good but will only provide nitrogen.

[-] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 weeks ago

If you have local free groups (Freecycle, Buy Nothing, Everything is Free) this isn't even that weird an item for an In Search Of post. Someone in town will have something they'll be happy to share.

[-] livligkinkajou@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago

Have you tried bokashi? If anyone asks, you just say the container is your trash bin

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Anyway, it's not composting, so, per the landlords' rules, it's fine.

[-] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Maybe just use cheap synthetic fertiliser if you want?
It's used for potted plants, so there's basically no runoff.

I personally love Masterblend, which is what plants crave ® /s (contains all essential nutrients and you don't need much of it). You need to weight and dissolve it tho, but that's not much extra effort for me.

But any cheap all purpose fertilizer with micronutrients will do.

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Everyone likes to claim that eggshells are some kind of a amazing fertilizer, but they aren't. They are calcium carbonate, which is not really water soluble (in other words, not available to plants). You can improve solubility by baking and then pulverizing them to a powder. They are basic, though, so it's possible to rise the pH too much for some plants. I wouldn't just do it willy-nilly.

It would be awesome if balcony gardeners could just scrounge all the fertilizer their plants need, but it's not easy. If you are on a budget, you can just buy a canister of miracle grow that will last indefinitely for $12.

[-] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Our city will compost mountains of compost then every May they will give them out 5 bucket per car and it's great as planter soil or just to top off the yard. If you keep checking Kijiji or Facebook some people will give out top soil or extra planter soil for free to get rid of it from renovation or too much order. You can try those.

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

I mean... for the truly free solution you could potentially use your own urine. It's a little much for most people but historically it was used.

[-] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't that contain too much sodium? How do you prevent disease spread?

[-] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Apparently it does not contain too much sodium, although you probably have to apply sparingly (like any fertilizer). Most plants can (and must) tolerate some sodium in the soil. Some plants are much better at this than others. It would probably help if these balcony plants are getting rainwater or non-salty tap water (like, you don't have a water softener).

Urine doesn't have the same parasite issues as feces but probably best to skip using it if you had a UTI or were regularly taking medications. I'd also just apply it to the roots and not the whole plant (like any fertilizer). I don't know, I've never used it, I just know it has been used historically and it has a ton of nitrogen. Anecdotally the spots in my (extremely rural) yard where I've pissed green up noticeably.

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

The "proper" way to use urine is to basically dilute and cycle it with aeration through some kind of filter media to convert the urea/ammonia to nitrates. It's pretty much exactly the way that aquaponics works with beneficial bacteria.

The lazier way is to "age" it so the urea converts to ammonia, raising the pH which essentially kills most harmful bacteria. Pathogens usually can't survive for long outside of a host, anyway.

Anthroponics is the term to look up.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I'm not too proud to pee on my plants!

Jk, I'll dilute it first. I'm doing a bit of reading (since I do take a few medications for chronic illnesses) but it looks like if you age the urine for two months, most pharmaceuticals will degrade below readable levels, (here's what I'm looking at) so I guess I just have to decide if I'm willing to risk creating plants full of antihistamines and painkillers or if I need to ask a friend. I'm not sure if I have any friends who don't at least take a Claritin in the mornings? ...But I'm not too proud to ask the group chat to pee on my plants! :D

Thank you for sending me down this rabbit hole. Genuinely love the idea of using my own urine to fertilize my garden... that's about as low-cost as you can get I think.

Though an antihistamine painkiller tomato does sound great tbh

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Just be sure to accurately ID it, so you don't risk it being a Pain/Killer Tomato plant 🤞🏼

[-] robsteranium@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

You don't really need fertiliser. Plants fixate nutrients in the soil by feeding bacteria from the roots who then break organic matter down. Fertiliser is just a shortcut.

You also don't need a hose pipe for a balcony garden.

I'd focus your budget on some decent soil for which there's no real alternative. The dirt around office blocks will be crap. The top soil from the woods will be mostly leaf mold which dries out really quickly.

If you can find some olds pallets (make sure they're heat treated by checking for an HT stamp) you can build a raised bed. You can fill the bottom of that with compostables and put the soil on top. The composting process generates heat which can help extend the growing season. Once you've harvested you can turn the earth before loading it up for the next year. It's a lot of work but it fits your requirements.

If you know another gardener they'll probably have spare pots and seeds to give away. If you have enough left in your budget you might invest in seedlings (little plants) - a headstart will improve your chances of actually harvesting some veg this year if you're just starting out.

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Some have mentionned pee, which is good but unfortunately provides only nitrogen.

Well, I have another good source of nitrogen to suggest: legumes. Grow legumes and they will naturally add nitrogen to your soil, without adding any sodium

[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

Dollar for dollar and desire not to handle pee makes me like DEF as a nitrogen source if I had to be really cheap about it. A little bit goes a long way though.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 weeks ago

I am comically allergic to nearly all legumes XDD But I don't know anyone else who is, so I'd be good to give away my harvest to friends and neighbors. Legumes are often used to reset a field, right? Do you think I could rotate my pots/beds next year to refresh this year's soil by planting legumes?

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yea legumes are an essential part of the traditonnal rotation of cultures.

Just remember that it contributes mostly nitrogen

I just thought of this: for potassium and phosphorus, you could add ash. Just be mindful of the effect on pH — it's alkaline.

In any case, I think that without compost or chemical fertilizers, it will be hard.

Lombricompost would be equivalent to compost if it's acceptable to your landlord, I think.

I have no idea of the benefits of bokashi.

You might want to rely on plants that require no fertlizing: dill, rosemary, parsnip, and oregano.

The following plants require little fertilizing: carrots, beans (+ they give nitrogen), arugula, cilantro, onions, turnip, shelling pea, flat-podded pea, chamomile

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I just stumbled across this video on DIY compost-free fertilizer today and immediately thought of this post, so I'm sharing it here. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s1q7NonSlEU

Quick summary if you would rather not watch: bloom yeast in warm water with sugar, add in what you have of powdered eggshells, wood ash, and Epsom salt. Ratio from the comments that I can't double-check against the video is:

Metric:

  • Mix 1 Tbsp of dry yeast into 950 ml of warm water with 2 Tbsp of sugar. Let bloom for 10 minutes, then place into fridge overnight.
  • Mix yeast mixture into 19 litres of room temperature water.
  • Add 1 Tbsp of wood ash, if you have it
  • Add 1 Tbsp of ground eggshells, if you have that.
  • Add 1/2 tsp Epsom salt, if you have that.
  • Add about 236 milliliters at the base of plant you're fertilizing every two weeks.

'Merican:

  • Mix 1 Tbsp of dry yeast into 1 quart of warm water with 2 Tbsp of sugar. Let bloom for 10 minutes, then place into fridge overnight.
  • Mix yeast mixture into 5 gals of room temperature water.
  • Add 1 Tbsp of wood ash, if you have it
  • Add 1 Tbsp of ground eggshells, if you have that.
  • Add 1/2 tsp Epsom salt, if you have that.
  • Add about 1 cup at the base of plant you're fertilizing every two weeks.

Anecdotal evidence supports this. I cannot find any studies or articles about this because when I try to Duck around and find out, I cannot tell which of the top results are AI slop and it's all over the place. We are in Hell. So my advice is to try it, maybe omitting different ingredients for comparison, and test it out. I'm currently trying to find a good vegan alternative to add calcium in place of eggshells that's cheap, available and which I would actually have on hand regularly as someone who does not use eggs.

[-] foxymochakitten@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

this is such a useful resource thank you!! I have a shocking amount of wood ash available to me and weirdly enough an absolutely thicc bag of Epsom salt that someone gave me as a gift. And of course I have sugar and yeast, I bake a lot of bread XD I saw some people in the comments were saying that you can skip the egg shells but I do have some. And I also saw a comment saying you can use rice water to get natural yeast? I eat a ton of rice so I'll probably experiment with that c:

I hear you on the AI slop stuff. I use Ecosia instead of Google for obvious reasons but it's so difficult to find real websites instead of slop. These days I do trust anecdotal evidence a fair bit (when there's no potential to harm anyone) so I am happy to give this a shot! A friend has also gifted me a jar of homemade compost tea, the kind where you put plant scraps in with water until it turns gross. So maybe I can divide my plants into two groups and see which makes them happier C:

[-] pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That sounds like a great plan! If you feel like it, I'd love to see you report back with the results.

[-] bassad@jlai.lu 2 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe try a lombricompost, it's several buckets with holes between them, with compost worms in (some local community could provide it for free if asked nicely), just put fruit and veggies peeling in with paper or cardboard (60% green matter like cardboard for 40% peelings, like compost) and you will have very good fertilizer, good compost and no trip to bin anymore.

You can build it with old packaging, or buy it used.

I have one in my kitchen, no odors, only a little fruit flies when I'm not paying attention.

[-] Stupendous@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

On your balcony, a bucket of water that you throw kitchen scraps in and make liquid compost

Looks like people do it with weeds as well

https://youtu.be/4Wo8XfCIvu8

Another thing is bokashi that involves fermenting kitchen scraps and you can make liquid fertilizer from that too

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 1 points 3 weeks ago

Another thing I just thought of is a worm farm.

This will depend on climate and space however, so do your research.

Some red wrigglers in an old bin with kitchen scraps will go a long way.

With 2 boxes you can harvest the worm compost easier and with a tap (you can install yourself) on the bottom to durian and extra juice would be ideal

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