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[-] Sepia@mander.xyz 6 points 13 hours ago

Sanchez said China should take on a more substantial role with issues including climate change, security, defense ​and the fight against inequality ...

China is the greatest bully in Asia and supposedly in history worldwide. It threatens entire populations like Taiwan, Japan, Australia, and many others, sometimes Beijing's envoys issue what can only be understood as death threats against government officials (like in the case of Japan's PM). What role would China take in security and defense according to Sanchez?

China in among the country with the highest inequality globally, it's higher than in any democracies (e.g., in many European democracies inequality is by a third lower than in China), and wealth inequality has been even increasing steadily in the last decade.

Sanchez is fighting a series of corruption scandals at home that threatens his political survival while courting the largest dictatorship in history. It's really time that he follows Orban's path.

[-] thethrilloftime69@feddit.online 1 points 4 hours ago

China is the greatest bully in Asia and supposedly in history worldwide.

The US is the greatest bully in the world and definitely has been for most of the last century.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 19 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The usa the biggest bully threatening the whole world and bombing schools, hospitals and cultural sites and murdering scientists.

Sanchez is respecting international laws the most in europe by standing up against the biggest settler colonial genocidal power called Israel and opposing Trump and the american empire. He is also doing a good job in improving the economy in spain

[-] Sepia@mander.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago

Pedro Sanchez morality is a show. As Garry Kasparov asks when commenting on the current Spanish PM, Is there a word in Spanish stronger than "hypocrisy"? Because one is badly needed for this.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Your morality is a show . He didn't wait for the united snakes failure to condemn the illegal war in Iran where dozens of schools and hospital are bombed

[-] antisoumerde@quokk.au 6 points 12 hours ago

it’s higher than in any democracies (e.g., in many European democracies inequality is by a third lower than in China

European "democracies" have armies that are still defending their colonial interests in africa as we speak

[-] Sepia@mander.xyz 0 points 10 hours ago

@antisoumerde@quokk.au

This may or may not be true, but I don't see what you comment has to do with the fact that inequality in China is much higher than in democracies, and the gap has been widening in recent years.

[-] antisoumerde@quokk.au 3 points 8 hours ago

Nobody's more blind than the ones who don't want to see.

It's easy to be rich when you looted half of the world. You sounds like an american apologist

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

He hate china not from a position of morality but from the position of it is the enemy of the "good" western countries and socialism is bad

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

most of the world's people that were lifted from poverty were in china in the last few decades.

[-] Sepia@mander.xyz 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Since 1978, China has transformed from a poor, relatively equal society to a leading global economy with levels of inequality surpassing much of Europe and resembling the U.S:

  • The share of China’s national income earned by the top 10% of the population has increased from 27% in 1978 to 41% in 2015, nearing the U.S.’s 45% and surpassing France's 32%.
  • Similarly, the wealth share of the top 10% of the population reached 67%, close to the U.S.’s 72% and higher than France’s 50%.

Vamsi Vakulabharanam, Associate Professor of Economics at University of Massachusetts Amherst and a dedicated expert for research of inequality, explained in an interview last year:

In China, the economic reforms initiated after 1978 tended to reduce inequality until the mid-1980s. This is because the initial reforms were focused on agriculture and in creating special economic zones (e.g., Shenzhen) that led to rapid economic growth in sectors and regions that had witnessed slower growth in the previous three decades. At the same time, the rural non-agricultural sector (e.g., Township and Village Enterprises) grew rapidly and contributed significantly to a spurt in exports from China during the 1980s. After 1985, when the coastal development strategy was initiated, within-country inequality began to rise in China. This increase in inequality had two major sources. The coastal region (and river delta regions) tended to grow faster compared to the central and western regions, thereby creating a trend of rising regional inequality. At the same time, as the urban sector started growing faster than its rural counterpart, there was a rapid growth in the gap between urban and rural areas. These two processes started by the early 1990s to push up the inequality rates up in China.

To provide a more recent picture, China has more dollar billionaires (1,110, up by 287 year-on-year) than the US (1,000, up 130 year-on-year), according to the 2026 Hurun rich list.

The rise in nequality in China has also many other reasons that are widely unknown in the Western hemisphere as they are rooted in a very unique Chinese social and societal system that comes with a lot of disadvantages for those affected. For example, there are more than 250 internal migrant in China with no hukou in urban areas. Simply speaking, this means they are allowed to conduct certain work in urban areas, but are registered in the rural areas where they come from. Without a hukou, however, people often face difficulties accessing essential public services such as education, healthcare, and social welfare, as these are typically tied to one’s registered location.

As Dr. Vakulabharanam said in the linked interview in this comment above:

This sort of a gap [between rich and poor] could not have arisen if the Chinese state was committed to egalitarianism, even with some leeway for a dictum like some inequality is acceptable if the overall economy achieves significant growth. The Chinese Communist Party must rediscover egalitarianism in the deeply unequal society that China has turned into after the market reforms of 1978.

@antisoumerde@quokk.au

@mrdown@lemmy.world

As an addition particularly to @mrdown: I don't hate China. Your accusation in this thread is fabricated and wrong.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

per capita, bro. and the "unknown to westerners" phenomena usually pertains to socialism.

any country that uses markets for it's economy will have bilionaires, and china's economy is about 35% market based by gdp (iirc, don't quote on the exact figure), which makes it proportionally that much unequal. in this case is damned because they did, and it would be damned if they didn't join global markets. for obvious reasons to me at least.

sometimes people do these western-focused analyses about my own country and completely miss the decisions and events that made it how it is.

which is why i do and would suggest finding more chinese experts to inform it, instead of cherrypicking stuff said by people all the way back in massachussets. china is full of problems and contradictions and it pays to seek understanding of their causes.

they are, however, in no way comparable to the horrors perpetrated by the us. it's very understandable european leaders would want to do business with them instead of the us given both track records.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

You hate china because you only post about China rel human right abuses while ignoring countries will worse track records like the uae, israel and the united states. How you critisize spain shows that is it all about opposing any form of socialism

[-] Sepia@mander.xyz 0 points 4 hours ago

No, you are wrong. Read my comments.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 hours ago

1990 there were nearly three times as many people living in absolute poverty in China then in Sub Saharan Africa.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago

don't you think it's quite an achievement that they don't anymore?

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago

Just look at a map of absolute poverty and armed conflicts in the world today. They pretty much overlap. Other countries like Brazil or India also managed some huge decreases in absolute poverty in the same time.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago

brazil had not so coincidentally left wing leadership at the time.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

And China has a fascist one. It clearly is not that much down to the system.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

china is literally communist. have a fascist government ever lifted so many people out of poverty?

[-] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Mum please come home early tonight and cook us a nice meal.

[-] antisoumerde@quokk.au 2 points 12 hours ago

You copy-pasted that shit lmao

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