It's cute how Yud is trying to construct a dichotomy between EA AI X-riskers and e/acc AI chuds like Andreessen, as if one side is correct and the other isn't. Call me a centrist if you like: both sides bad.
this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2023
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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What both sides have is an unrestrained contempt for the Fourth Estate:
Every journalistic outlet whose journalists credulously reprinted this patent bullshit should investigate those journalists to see who their connections are with whatever PR firms Andreessen Horowitz has hired; and then, regardless of the results of that investigation, should fire every one of those journalists for being one of either corrupt or hopelessly gullible.
Which stems from a contempt for accountability itself
So he is claiming this is 'they are trying to do regulatory capture' is all run and suddenly started by a billionaire, and not the women/poc who started talking about this stuff years ago (I assume Doctorow has also written about it). Typical.
He also doesn't get that the rich people who fund him/promote him are also doing that because he is a useful idiot. If I was trying to do regulatory capture (and trying to drive attention away from just how racist my ML stuff is for example) I would promote people like Yud, who have a decades old track record. A smart rich person would even fund various small strongly ideologically minded groups like Yud (and the NRx for example) with some throw away money just because they might be useful in the future. Just as rich people donate to both democrats and republicans.
Anyway his N for 'rich billionaires funding this' is 1. Bad Rationalist, no pets for you!
You only get credit for thinking about and warning about something if you have thought good ideas or were right about that thing. Not saying the person he's criticizing is right, either.
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Yud has been warning about the AI takeover for 20 years. During this time:, The North American Union has issued trillions of Ameros, Tesla summon from NY to LA debuted, the Mayan calendar counted down to doomsday...
Ron Paul saved us from the Amero.
This schism is heating up. Pretty funny, Yudkowsky has created a monster he couldn't control, just like he imagined... only the monster is AI fandom.