Because the English language is rife with tradition that makes the language intentionally more complicated.
I have postulated for years that you can just get rid of ph from the language entirely and it will make absolutely no difference in how we say the words.
Hey phuck that!
Exactly!
It's unphathomable!
I have some phriends who's name starts with "ph" who would be phucking pissed at a change like this!
Why is Kansas, "cansus", while Arkansas is "R-cansaw"?
America explain!
Kansas is named for the Kaw People Native American Nation (or Kanza) and Arkansas is named for the Quapaw Nation. Algonquian-speaking people originally referred to the Quapaw as "Akansa". French fur traders called them Arcansas.
I grew up in Kansas and we called it Ar-kansas.
@Evade5415 @nostupidquestions We should rename Kansas to Ur-Kansas. You know, to avoid confusion.
I have a relative in NJ who says Arkansas like Kansas with the hard S. He says it's a local thing but I think he's just trying to be different.
I think most of those "this is how the locals say it" things are clinging to a fading past. My favorite was a Kitchen Nightmares episode where the owner tells Gordon Ramsay that New Orleans is pronounced "Naw-Lins" (with some drawl, not sure how to write that exactly), but every other time before and after, he says "New Orleans".
I grew up near Baltimore, which people variously insisted should be "Bee-mer", "Balmer" or... A couple others. The only one I've seen actually play out is residents of NYC primarily referring to it as "The City", but that one is also pretty normal, so it makes sense that it would survive.
That's what I learned to call it growing up in Kansas.
I grew up in NJ and I have never heard anyone say it that way unironically.
Why is Houston "hew-stown" while Houston is "house-ton"
I assume Houston Street is named after a man that pronounced his name House-ton. Houston the city was named for Sam Houston, the first President of the Republic of Texas. He pronounced it Hews-ton, so that's what we call it.
The Philippines were named after a Spanish king, King Phillip, or Felippe in Spanish. Given that the country was first controlled by the Spanish for ages, then the Americans, I'm guessing that at first the Spanish name for both the people and the territory was used, but when the Americans took over, the English-ified name of the territory was used, while the Spanish name for the people stuck as colonial powers use the name for the territory more often? Perhaps the Filipino diaspora also plays a role in this. I don't know, just my guess.
Phuck if I know.
Who nos!?
Two things: Competing colonial interests and the orthographic differences between Spanish and English
The Spanish Empire took control of the Philippines and named the named the islands Las Islas Filipinas or just Las Filipinas which is still today used in Spanish to this day. It was named for the Spanish king at the time of the conquest: Rey Felipe II. Why the change from FE-lipe to FI-lipinas? I don't know.
Towards the end of the 1800s, The Spanish Empire is crumbling and their last remaining territories (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam and Las Filipinas) is taken by the USA. The US changes the name to the English-inflected The Philippines because English for, some reason, uses to two "F" sounds: "F" and "PH." Spanish only has one: "F."
English, misspelling and never admitting mistakes go hand in hand.
Don't forget 'far too inconvenient to correct now'
And is pronounced "Pilipino" by most Filipinos. But my Filipino wife, who grew up in South Carolina, had a friend who said "Flippin-o". So that's what we say now, lol.
"Flippin-o" sounds like if a kids show tried to create a fake curse word, so they could curse on air, without being fined by the FCC.
It's all a bunch of smoo!
That's not because of the spelling but because of the language. Just like Indonesian, the language doesn't distinguish between f and p, because they're basically the same letter (one is a plosive and one is a fricative but that's it). In Indonesian you'll hear fancake and coppee, for example.
I had no idea either but I did find this while Googling(Kagi-ing?)
https://grammarphobia.com/blog/2010/04/why-is-filipino-spelled-with-an-f.html
Back in my day we used to call it "searching"
Here's a Nintendo game. It's Halo for the Xbox360.
People that use Kagi are the Harvard grads of search engine users
You could easily replace 'googling' to 'Interneting'.
Instead of googling, I say searching it up
'Interneting' does not suggest using a search engine
If “Googling” falls into common usage to cover all web search, Alphabet lose their trademark protection…
"Kleenex" being more common than "facial tissue" is not hurting the Kleenex brand at all.
Kleenex has not reached the stage where they’ve lost the trademark. Also everyone I know just says tissue.
My point is if you want to hurt Google advertising for them hoping they lose the trademark is not going to do it. Naming whatever alternative search engine you used to spread awareness is much more effective.
Hey Filipino here - i honestly don't know the answer (or maybe I'm too old to remember my history class) but as per Wikipedia
The name Filipino, as a demonym, was derived from the term las Islas Filipinas 'the Philippine Islands', the name given to the archipelago in 1543 by the Spanish explorer and Dominican priest Ruy López de Villalobos, in honor of Philip II of Spain.
that doesn't answer the question of why F vs PH
When it became a US colony they changed it.
That was printed on maps. The people still referred to themselves with the original spelling.
so King Philip named it Filip? and then Americans named it Philip? wat
King Felipe in Spanish.
Philip in English.
Philip is the English spelling of the name.
it was an Spanish colony for 300 years, Filipino is the Spanish spelling, and probably stuck, in English would have been "Philippine"
How did this question never occur to me before? Now i need to know the answer too
Lol
Guangzhou is spelled with the Pinyin
But the local language is not called "Guangzhouese", its Cantonese, but the city is not called "Canton"
lmao
Also: Petition to rename my city to "Filadelfia" 🤭
Canton was originally the transliterated name for the province of Guangdong, which is why the language is called Cantonese in English, from guǎngdōnghuà.
The name Canton being applied to Guangzhou came later.
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