I think the humans, elves, and dwarves were not only weaker/less armed/less trained at the time of the movies vs the initial fight, but also less united/allied
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This. The war that culminated in Saurons initial defeat was literally called the "War of the last alliance".
Is it realistic though to not have any advancement in technology or warfare in 5000 years? How could they be weaker than before? That sounds insane
Middle Earth's magic is in decay by the third age. The elves are literally leaving it, and there are way less of them. Men also only live to ~80 instead of living for hundreds of years like they did in Numenor. Middle Earth eventually becomes a world like ours.
What OP is suggesting: Give sauron the ring, it went well last time. We reckon we could take him
"Gets beaten ezpz"? Sure.
Yeah, even in the movie a LOT of people get seriously wrecked before that finger gets cut off.
Was his finger cut off in the book too? Is that how he lost the ring?
I never finished the Silmarillion, but from a synopsis I read, he was defeated first, then the ring was cut from his hand.
Yeah, aside from the numerous armies lost, includijg dwarves and elves, ~1000 years of fighting, it took two literal kings dying to defeat him, Gil-galad and Elendil. But, Sauron was also defated. In the end, Isildur showed up and chopped off his finger and took the ring.
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