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Anon finds a plot hole (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I think the humans, elves, and dwarves were not only weaker/less armed/less trained at the time of the movies vs the initial fight, but also less united/allied

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

This. The war that culminated in Saurons initial defeat was literally called the "War of the last alliance".

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Is it realistic though to not have any advancement in technology or warfare in 5000 years? How could they be weaker than before? That sounds insane

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Middle Earth's magic is in decay by the third age. The elves are literally leaving it, and there are way less of them. Men also only live to ~80 instead of living for hundreds of years like they did in Numenor. Middle Earth eventually becomes a world like ours.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

What OP is suggesting: Give sauron the ring, it went well last time. We reckon we could take him

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago
[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, even in the movie a LOT of people get seriously wrecked before that finger gets cut off.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Was his finger cut off in the book too? Is that how he lost the ring?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I never finished the Silmarillion, but from a synopsis I read, he was defeated first, then the ring was cut from his hand.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, aside from the numerous armies lost, includijg dwarves and elves, ~1000 years of fighting, it took two literal kings dying to defeat him, Gil-galad and Elendil. But, Sauron was also defated. In the end, Isildur showed up and chopped off his finger and took the ring.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

"gg2ez" - Isildur

this post was submitted on 05 Nov 2023
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