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I'm not from the Netherlands, but I took a quick glance through it's political parties and Bij1 seems to be the better choice. There's a lot of right wing crappy parties it seems.
But if you're voting as an emigrant, doesn't it mean your vote is pretty much useless? Here in Portugal, emigrants only get 4 seats in the parliament, so it's always the 2 big parties that get all those seats. I don't mind much, since they all seem to be reactionary.
Immigrants don't get to vote here. Except in local elections for city councils.
In democratic Europe I haven't been allowed to vote in over 20 years as Ireland doesn't allow voting for non residents even if you're a citizen.
Immigrant ≠ Emigrant
Huh? What do you mean?
Immigrant means a foreign person who moved to your country.
Emigrant means a person from your country who moved to another country.
Emigrants (Portuguese nationals outside Portugal) can vote in Portuguese elections, they have their own Hondt "circle".
Immigrants (foreigners who move to Portugal) can't vote in national elections, unless they obtain nationality.
Emigrant means a person from your country who moved to another country.
No this is incorrect. I have no idea why you or the other poster is telling me this. It's strange.
I'm from Ireland, I live in the Netherlands. I am an immigrant to here, I emigrated from Ireland, I'm both an emigrant and an immigrant. My original statements was the immigrants can't vote in NL, obviously if they become citizens they can.
I understand, I was not saying you couldn't be both, I'm talking in the context of national elections. The confusion might have started because the original poster you replied to was talking about Emigrants from the Netherlands, not Immigrants to the Netherlands (who would be considered Emigrants in their country of origin).
Maybe bij1 maybe just not vote probably will though
Oppo is a Dutchwoman, unexpected lore drop
Smh I mentioned it before Fake fan
Who would've known you are Dutch
Update: I voted Also the state is actively trying to surpress my vote because the street I live in used to have a place to vote but that building does not exist anymore therefore I had to travel more
I also heard that around 400 voting stations are near inaccessible for people with a disability. I guess their votes don't matter.
Did you vote BIJ1?
Yeah Edson Olf, if PVDAGL wanted my vote they should not support a two state solution
They also completely failed in their campaign lol. BIJ1 liked one of my slander comments about strategic voting on a leftist Instagram page as well lol. PVDAGL is just for educated middle class lefties unfortunately.
Bij1 liking your comment is official recognition
I'm still a little bit on the fence between Pvdd or Bij1. But at this moment I'm more inclind towards the Pvdd.
Why exactly
Because I like their plans regarding climate change and biodiversity, that is in my view the most pressing issue at the moment. I also think that they will wield greater influence than Bij1, because their views are more readily embraced by the bourgeoisie.
How? BIJ1 is the only one that's actually socialist. PvdD is my second choice though