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[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

It turned out in the end by Gog & Mogog, Bush meant Oil & Gold

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 hour ago

Did he even really say this, or was this a propaganda piece published by prosperity gospel evangelical baptists to keep their rubes salivating over the Middle East oil wars?

[-] UninvestedCuriosity@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Moloch also keeps showing up again and again in the lore of these people as a way for them to personally atone for their egregious activities. They believe this entity requires constant and significant sacrifice for good fortune. George Bush Jr was in attendance at Bohemian grove many times where the powerful people go to rub elbows and relax in the summer on a lake. They run a mock ceremony there called the Comfort of Care as part of the festivities where they do a mock sacrifice of a young women (presumably a virgin) to Moloch as a symbol of the entire years worth of their immoral actions to atone to Moloch. The idea being that they can then leave the mini vacation with less weight of how they have used their power in the past.

I think coverage of the grove as dramatization throughout the years regarding occult activity actually did us all a big disservice toward what the real issue has always been. That is, leadership without personal responsibility, and should be a major red flag when thinking about leaders at any capacity.

I wish I was making this stuff up. So it's not totally off the wall here that George Bush Jr would be looking for other spiritual entities and collect them so that he could also use for himself for justifications. This is how they sleep at night and we should never let them forget their harm no matter how many cute paintings they make.

Whether they really believe this stuff or not, there is always a theme of using spirituality to justify horrible actions among these people and I think that's something important to keep in mind in regard to understanding the complete lack of mental health and critical thinking among the powerful despite their positions and willingness to say or do anything to justify their actions.

I wish we could do away with the idea of spirituality once and for all but I'd settle for the institutions of religion to at least call out these people more often along the way when powerful people are just as happy to use that religion as a means of justification for their actions. The whole thing is rotten to the core.

When a person with addiction murders someone and says "god made me do it.". We treat them as crazy. When a politician does it, we are supposed to feel sorry for them?

Anyway, for anyone that believes they have to choose "something" focus on science. At least it has to prove itself rather than demand sacrifice to some vague mythical goat man. I believe the Pastafarions haven't harmed anyone (yet) either.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 19 points 2 hours ago

Roman Catholic here, born and raised, church every Sunday and catechism. As Roman Catholics, we don't fuck around with reading the Bible. We daze off during the two readings and the Gospel, and we rely on the priest's homily to sum it all up succinctly and with a couple of jokes sprinkled in.

18 years of going to church growing up and I don't know what a Gog Magog is.

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 19 points 1 hour ago

In the Hebrew Bible, particularly in the Book of Ezekiel (chapters 38–39), Gog is a leader (possibly a king?), and Magog is the land or people he rules. They are described as a hostile force that will attack Israel in the “last days,” only to be decisively defeated by God. In the New Testament (Book of Revelation 20:7–9), the names reappear symbolically. Here, “Gog and Magog” represent the nations of the world gathered for a final rebellion against God after a period of peace. They are again defeated in a climactic, apocalyptic battle.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 hour ago

Space king has more credible lore than this

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 4 points 1 hour ago

People believe anything their religion tells them.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

Woah woah... Slow down and throw a joke or two into that if you want me to absorb it.

[-] Ariselas@piefed.ca 1 points 15 minutes ago

Well, it's not as far fetched as believing that a grifter found some golden tablets in the woods and a magic hat translated the markings for him.

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 5 points 1 hour ago

Alright, alright, let me put the tinfoil on low heat for a second.

Old Testament: Gog is the boss, Magog is his turf and crew. They roll up for a big end-times fight… and get absolutely smote. End of story.

New Testament? Same names, but now it’s basically everyone and their cousin joining the rebellion. Bigger crowd, same outcome, still gets shut down.

So yeah… same names, bigger scale.

It’s like a sequel where the budget goes up, but the villain still loses in the last five minutes.

And let’s be honest, if your battle plan keeps ending in divine smiting, maybe… workshop the strategy.

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

That's pretty danged good. Now do it as a limerick.

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 6 points 53 minutes ago

Can’t say I’ve ever been good with limericks lol. I tend to be overly descriptive.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 2 points 5 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

There once was a leader named Gog
Who ruled in the land of Magog
His forces were smote
Then again it was wrote
And Dubya's as dumb as a log

[-] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 1 points 7 minutes ago

I gave it a shot, but not sure how it came out. How about this:

There once was a leader named Gog, Whose land, Magog, was part of the slog. They attacked in the end, Got smote ‘round the bend, And the sequel went global, same log.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 1 points 11 minutes ago

There once was a bloke called Gog,
Who thought he could be "top dog".
He fought with Israel,
Where soon he did fail,
Then he buggered off back to Magog.

[-] Johandea@feddit.nu 11 points 2 hours ago

18 years of going to church growing up and I don't know what a Gog Magog is.

I believe Gandalf killed one of them.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 seconds ago

That’s balrog.

I think what you mean is a game service that sells old games, and my collection of such games.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 2 hours ago

Isn't gog magog a goose liver pâté? 🤔

[-] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

I wouldnt know -- im catholic.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago

Truly, he was the dumbest president so far..

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