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Wow, who knew all systemd users were born on 01/01/1970? What a coincidence!
Imagine if using a dataset containing the same birthdate for everyone results in AIs predicting an upcoming mass extinction due to the entire worlds population being above a certain age. We could call it the epochalypse.
Whipper snappers… my birthday on Steam is Jan 1st, 1900.
I was actually born in -1… er, I mean, December 31st, 1969. :)
April 1st. 1911 here.
Also,
https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues
It is the duty of all to report bugs in the code.
1/1/1
Why does systemd need to verify age?
Seems like a horrible eagerness to comply in advance with equally horrible US state laws when this legal scenario is not even close to resolved.
In Brazil that OS age verification law just became effective. (One day ago)
Because Meta's lobbying to kill the free and open internet, and personal computing as a concept. Also, MS, Apple, and Google are probably lobbying to kill their competition before it gets too great.
I wonder if they have received directly some donations from that lobbying or signed some contract
I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants?
Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out.
Theres talk of a new law in California that requires operating systems to verify the users’ age. This would be a way of implementing that in Linux distros
And yet those laws are definitely going to go to court and haven’t been passed yet even, so why the eagerness to comply???
They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it.
The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051
California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027.
I always said systemd was trying to become the entire operating system
i'm looking forward to package-managerd and systemd-install
It doesn't. The MR is just for an additional and optional field in userdb. The same as in any proper user directory service (LDAP mainly).
It's systemd. A child pest of a Microsoftist pest. It was literally invented to contribute towards the ~~Microsoftization~~Microslopization of Linux.
I'm really disappointed that someone hasn't just made a standalone userspace addon to implement the feature, shoved in down California's throat, and told them to come back with complaints once they can find where BSD came from.
Adding this type of "support" is just giving legitimacy to crappy legislation. I would not bother even creating the underlying system so some underpaid google intern can make his age verification app 2% faster.
This entire fiasco could have been a bash script that uses a new file in /etc to store birthdays.
Another patch should be added to rename "Systemd" to "Surveillanced".
Ada preparing to drop systemd
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Brazilian here. I'm neither a lawyer nor a specialist, just someone who has read the Portuguese text from the Brazilian flavor of the ongoing worldwide age check set of laws.
I must note that the Brazilian age check law (Lei 15.211/2025) specifies "vedada a autodeclaração" (English: "self-declaring is forbidden"). This means that this kind of implementation, where age or birthday is an user input, wouldn't be compliant to Lei 15.211/2025, because it requires the age information to be assessed independently from the user whose age is being assessed. This means face biometrics, government-issued ID (in our case, CPF, CNH, Passaporte and similar) or "behaviorial analysis"... Anything but a "yes I'm 18" or "I was born in day month year", for those are self-declared and the Law says it's "not enough".
Someone should warn the systemd maintainers of this "Brazilian jabuticaba".
OK. Fair point, but hear me out, his is this different than say user1 is admin who then verifies user2 by looking at id and says verified.
sudo moduser user2 birthDate 'yyyy/mm/dd'
And how is that different than I'm user1 and user2 and perform the operation myself.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that this is stupid. I'm also a bit offended about the flatpak comment.
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Gives me another excuse to try Guix at the least.
If this shitstorm keeps up, I will just build my own OS at some point
It is optional field and can be unset and set to arbitrary value by the administrator. If you can build your own OS, isn't it easier to just unset this value?
Easier it is, sure. And optional field it is - for now. But the moment anything (that should not be interested in it) asks my age on install, I am dropping that software
LFS
Yeah. Long-known and long-feared letters :)
Yes, of course! :)
Age verification is fucking scaremongering for this.
It literally adds a field to record user ages. It doesn't verify anything.
Yet
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Void Linux with runit, here I come!
OpenRC, my old friend
Wtf.
Artix chads rise up
So are we jumping ships ? Where to I go, where do I go?
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