▲ 166 ▼ Systemd preparing to comply with age verification laws (github.com) submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/linux@lemmy.world 53 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65555474 Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along... Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/ Final edit: The PR has been merged into main.
[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 57 points 5 months ago (5 children) Why does systemd need to verify age? permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 68 points 5 months ago (1 child) Seems like a horrible eagerness to comply in advance with equally horrible US state laws when this legal scenario is not even close to resolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago In Brazil that OS age verification law just became effective. (One day ago) permalink fedilink source parent [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 31 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Because Meta's lobbying to kill the free and open internet, and personal computing as a concept. Also, MS, Apple, and Google are probably lobbying to kill their competition before it gets too great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) I wonder if they have received directly some donations from that lobbying or signed some contract permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) Someone recently exposed all of Meta's lobbying. Here's the Lemmy post talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent [+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) And yet those laws are definitely going to go to court and haven’t been passed yet even, so why the eagerness to comply??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 permalink fedilink source parent [–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I always said systemd was trying to become the entire operating system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago i'm looking forward to package-managerd and systemd-install permalink fedilink source parent [–] death_to_carrots@feddit.org 7 points 5 months ago It doesn't. The MR is just for an additional and optional field in userdb. The same as in any proper user directory service (LDAP mainly). permalink fedilink source parent [–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago It's systemd. A child pest of a Microsoftist pest. It was literally invented to contribute towards the MicrosoftizationMicroslopization of Linux. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] skyline2@lemmy.dbzer0.com [S] 68 points 5 months ago (1 child) Seems like a horrible eagerness to comply in advance with equally horrible US state laws when this legal scenario is not even close to resolved. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago In Brazil that OS age verification law just became effective. (One day ago) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ChilledPeppers@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago In Brazil that OS age verification law just became effective. (One day ago) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 31 points 5 months ago* (1 child) Because Meta's lobbying to kill the free and open internet, and personal computing as a concept. Also, MS, Apple, and Google are probably lobbying to kill their competition before it gets too great. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) I wonder if they have received directly some donations from that lobbying or signed some contract permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) Someone recently exposed all of Meta's lobbying. Here's the Lemmy post talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 child) I wonder if they have received directly some donations from that lobbying or signed some contract permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) Someone recently exposed all of Meta's lobbying. Here's the Lemmy post talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) Someone recently exposed all of Meta's lobbying. Here's the Lemmy post talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 child) I mean explicitly systemd and xdg-desktop-portal. Why are they so eager to implement a nonenforceable law? Did they get one of those grants? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 9 points 5 months ago Some money probably got passed under the table somewhere to get the competition knocked out. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] ageedizzle@piefed.ca 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) And yet those laws are definitely going to go to court and haven’t been passed yet even, so why the eagerness to comply??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 permalink fedilink source parent [–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I always said systemd was trying to become the entire operating system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago i'm looking forward to package-managerd and systemd-install permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tyler@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago (1 child) And yet those laws are definitely going to go to court and haven’t been passed yet even, so why the eagerness to comply??? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 permalink fedilink source parent [–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago (2 children) They have been passed and will be enforced in like 2 years. They may be challenged, but it's not a guarantee that a court would oppose it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 permalink fedilink source parent [–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tyler@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago The Colorado law is still under consideration and has only gone through the senate. https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] NutinButNet@hilariouschaos.com 3 points 5 months ago California is less than a year as it goes into effect this upcoming January 2027. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago* (1 child) I always said systemd was trying to become the entire operating system permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago i'm looking forward to package-managerd and systemd-install permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago i'm looking forward to package-managerd and systemd-install permalink fedilink source parent
[–] death_to_carrots@feddit.org 7 points 5 months ago It doesn't. The MR is just for an additional and optional field in userdb. The same as in any proper user directory service (LDAP mainly). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 5 months ago It's systemd. A child pest of a Microsoftist pest. It was literally invented to contribute towards the MicrosoftizationMicroslopization of Linux. permalink fedilink source parent